20 Reasons Why Nokia 5800 is better than Apple Iphone

The above is the most comprehensive list of Iphone vs Nokia 5800 I found on net. Great work and I agree with each point you raised. Thanks.

Hey James

Thanks for your comment. Well you already admitted - “I agree that 5800 has the potential to be an iPhone killer”, so there is not much to say now. But we respect your thoughts for still feeling Iphone is better that anything else. We were having the same view like you and many others but that changed as soon as we saw 5800 first.

we prepared the list of 20 points above for comparing features of 5800 and Iphone. Your comment would have been more strong if you have raised atleast 2 logical points supporting your love for Iphone.

We have much more reasons than the above listed to believe that Nokia 5800 is far superior to Iphone. But we searched out the whole net and were still unable to find why Iphone is still better than 5800. Could you enlighten some points here please?

You mentioned- “the next Iphone may be available before Xmas in some territories”. What will it change? Do you have some insider info that the next Iphone is more feature rich than 5800? If so, be prepared for another reply from Nokia
And yes, we are too enthusiastic about 5800 and so the world is. And thats not a ‘cry’ as you said, thats ‘joy’ Thanks for stopping by and sharing your views.

More comments are welcome..

Okay, I’ll play along;

You say that the iPhone is ‘bulkier’. A simple calculation based on the figures that you have provided show that the 5800 is actually bulkier than the iPhone.

You have completely ignored the most stunning aspect of the iPhone, the App Store. Nokia will struggle to match what Apple have achieved with the iPhone SDK and App Store. iPhone 3rd party support is in its infancy, but yet it has produced some wonderful apps, the likes of which I have never seen on any smartphone!

You mentioned that Nokia have ‘Ages of experience’ whilst Apple is a ‘novice’ in this marketplace. This is true, but only if you totally believe that these new devices are more phone than computer. If like me you believe that what we are seeing here is the birth of the next ubiquitous computing platform then it is Nokia who are ill prepared for the future. Time will tell…

On the subject of pricing. Consider the iPod as an example. The iPhone Nano (or whatever it will be called) will be much cheaper than the current iPhone, and probably less than the standard 5800.

As I’ve already mentioned, the 5800 has potential. The extent of that potential is hard to define at this moment in time. I wish you all the best with your excellent new blog and hope that things work out for the Nokia 5800 as you have foreseen.

The aspects of the 5800 that I’m most excited about are the video capture/editing and the social media tools.

James, Stop posting your crap for the fuc**ng Iphone. Its the worst phone I have ever used. Can u imagine a ’smartphone’ without bluetooth and MMS capabilities? I cant even surf net properly on it, no support for email saving, computer files saving and no flash support and u call it a computer phone?

The itunes service sucks.. and so do the fuc**ng non removable battery which is stick to iphone’s ass. I see a 3 megapixel camera in most of the good smartphones now, even some have upto 8mp but these idiots still have the same 2mp bundled. And that 2MP one is of no use too if u cant even record videos with it. Have u tried ever to take a photo with Iphone in night? My beautiful wife looks horrible in the Iphone camera. It also have so much messaging problems as listed here. Grrr..

I agree that Iphone is still ahead than anything else on terms of looks, but should I lick those looks if its not having basic features.

You are making your claims about the next so called Iphone version which I cant notice anywhere else? Have u seen the next iphone or u know what it includes. Dont presume anything if u have not seen. You are comparing a future iphone in your imagination which nobody knows about with a present nokia phone which is just out.

All your points are based on assuming terms like “time will tell” “will be much cheaper” “probably” etc. Stop fantasising about the next so called iphone and talk on what you have curently in front of you. If Nokia can launch a better handset than the current iphone, is it not capable of slapping them again when their next iphone will come, will it sit idle?

You call about the App store? My iphone hanged 2 times while downloading and installing those bullsh** applications. I got to restore that from Apple and their service sucks too. They gave back my Iphone after 3 days for making just a simple restore and reinstall of OS.

I m not a 5800 fan yet and cant say much about it till I see it but I just HATE Iphone.

Andy, Cool down mate

Why you are so much upset with Iphone? Ok I understand you don’t like Iphone but James was just sharing his views. Please be nice to everyone, this is not a place to fight with each other. We are friends here and just discussing our views. You did not noticed that James is also looking at Nokia5800 as a promising device.

James, I agree to some extent on what you said. Let me talk about the 4 main points you raised-

Bulkier- I do not know how you calculated that but being 25g lighter in weight Nokia 5800 can’t be bulkier than Iphone, right? If you are talking about height of phone, yeah 5800 is thicker but overall size makes it much compact, handy and lighter.

App Store- I agree Iphone has good App store but Nokia too includes a download section within the phone. We are yet to find what are the applications available with it. We just made one blog entry about the ‘Qik’ Application which enables sharing live streaming video from your 5800. What more, it has millions of music tracks available for free download which Apple Itunes charges for.

Phone with computer- Yes its the age of smartphones with PC capabilities. As far as I remember Nokia was the pioneer in setting this trend with their N & E series smartphones Andy in his frustration raised some good points questioning the mobile computing capabilities of Iphone and I agree to some extent. Apple does not have a major market share and is far behind than other leaders in whatever it deals- Computers, Operating systems or Mobiles. Though having the technology and capability, it has yet to prove on many fronts.

Pricing- You said it all yourself- “The iPhone Nano (or whatever it will be called) will be much cheaper than the current iPhone, and probably less than the standard 5800.” As Andy said above, its just imagination for now, so lets not discuss ‘assuming’ something.

Thanks for the good wishes for blog. We hope to come upto your expectations. Thanks for your views.

Andy, I thought we were talking about two phones here, why are you resorting to personal attacks? Am I not allowed to post an opinion about a phone without being insulted by you?

(^_^)/ I hope Nokia and Apple appreciate the passion that we have for their devices. Ah well, it’s all good.

I agree with most of your reasons.
I like you to expand some items to clarify and show the HUGE gap between capability of Nokia/Symbian vs iPhone/Mac OsX.

1) Bluetooth: just look at the bluetooth profiles Nokia 5800 supports!
A2DP, AVRCP, BIP, DUN, FTP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HID, HSP, OPP, PBAP, SAP, SDP, SPP
Bluetooth is a great technology, but apple assumes it as a “wire replacement” for your headphone! inasne!

2) Input Method: you can take a look at Eldar Murtazin’s review on 5800 (esp Input Method). This is important for an “everyday-phone” to use it with single-hand and both-hands.

3) Power Capability: Nokia offers a BL-5J 3.7V 1320 mAh removable battery, that means you can buy additional battery for doubling the current great 8h talk-time or 30 h music playback time! Moreover each chargeable battery loses it capacity after 200 charge cycles even in the best condition. you have to pay alot to iPhone service centers and yield your phone for days to replace your wearied battery. In nokia you simply buy a battery from a regular shop and replace it in less than 1 minute!

4) Camera: the megapixel is not the whole thing for a digital camera, focal length, lens, sensor quality and type, software, flash, color quality, noise level, … should be considered.
I’ve not tried iPhone 3G by myself, but there is a tiny hole on the back of iPhone that is covered by a tiny plastic , Apple calls it camera! terrible quality (you can find many sample pictures on the internet), no video, no flash.
I think apple included camera in order to fill iPhone spec sheet on the paper! as they did for the useless bluetooth of iPhone.
In practice you can think the iPhone has no camera, no bluetooth.

5) OS: the major expectation from a smartphone is the ability to run applications, many applications.
Symbian is a mature and stable OS with many free and paid applications available. It has a small footprint (vs Mac OS) and needs less CPU power for doing the same services. I also like its multitasking features (which iPhone hurts me in this area).
Symbian phones (V9 and higher) are capable of running Symbian C / Standard C-C (partly via Open-C) / Java / Python and Flash lite applications and Nokia platforms (vs Sony Ericsson/iPhone) are powerful to run many Native/Java apps concurrently.
For the platform I’ve tried (Windows Mobile, iPhone, Nokia S60) the S60 is the most stable, fluent, usable and available OS for a everyday-mobile experience.

Conclusion:
Nokia or HTC phones are far ahead of iPhone in the case of capability, functionality and “mobile phone” nature both in Hardware and the OS.
The truth is nobody has to love technology and functionality. People are free to love the style or design and appreciate the beauty of the iPhone more than the capability of the Nokia 5800. Apple knows it and makes money from their stylish but weaker products. How many mp3 players do you know that are better than iPod? I know many, but iPod won the advertising, marketing and sales record. It’s not technological, It’s MARKETING achievement.

The iPhone is cool for what it is. A consumer device. But as far as inspiring creativity, forget it. From the perspective of a developer the Apps Store is a joke. Sure, go ahead and spend months on an application and maybe it will see the light of day. As a developer I wouldn’t put time into an application if I thought it had the slightest chance of not being distributed. Flash is coming around and with the release of Skyfire (www.skyfire.com) Apple is going to have to include flash on the next release.

@JakeZ: Hmm. I take that you’ve not tried Guitarist, Brushes, Panolab, Beatmaker, Colors, Bloom and Pianist on the iPhone then? These are all extremely inspiring and creative apps.

20 reasons why i should sell my N96 and switch to the 5800. Damn! I should’ve waited.

To Andri:
And the reasons are?
Could you prove your opinion?

Thanks for all the comments so far and making this blog a big success. Keep sharing your views..

wats the speed of the processor in the tube.. its arnd 700Mhz in the iphone.. how fast is the tube.. n wats the speed of the other n series phones. pls answer

Dude, you can lock your Nokia phone by sending one sms over.
It will lock your phone AND memory card.

Atleast in India I can say that 5800 will prove better than IPhone Because of the features that can be used in India.
I dont have any Hard feelings towards IPhone but it doesnot have all the req features.
On the other Hand 5800 cruised in with a handful of features that will fascinate the Mobile Users in India.

Well! DO WANT!!

I have been closely observing the iPhone since it was released and became available in the UK. At the time I was working in Symbian. On several occasions I took it upon myself to compare Symbian OS (i.e. the OS on Nokia 5800) and Mac OS on the iPhone which always yielded interesting results. The fact is both Operating Systems are portable and can therefore be made to work on almost all computing systems in the world. However when it comes to functioning as an advanced Operating System for mobile phones Symbian clearly triumphs over the Mac OS simply because it was developed to work on mobile phones implicitly. That is principally the reason why all the known iPhone software feature problems exist.

To the Apple fans, there are still some good points that Apple has brought onboard such as a very good GUI (Graphic User Interface) that is obviously an offshoot from the iMac and MacBook version of Mac OS. They have also managed to make a snappy device that delivers quick transitions and responses when used.

And for all those that see the faster processor on the iPhone or iPhone3G and compare it to the Nokia 5800 slower processor and think it’s a reflection of Apple’s advancement with mobile phones consider this then:

How functionality relates to performance
To explain this clearly I will show the correlation between functionality, performance and other variables using racing cars. If you take two cars that have the same weight and put similar engines in them and then race both cars, if one outperforms the other then you would have to say that such a car is superior. Imagine that one of the cars is the iPhone and the other Nokia 5800. Imagine also that both cars are of the same base weight but that every feature either phone has is an additional weight to its base weight. That would mean that the Nokia 5800 will be a heavier car than the iPhone 3G. And if the processor represented the size of engine it would mean that the Nokia 5800 with its features is heavier than the iPhone and with is slower processor has a smaller engine than the iPhone. Now when both cars are raced users might be excited that their iPhone 3G was 1 or 2 seconds faster than the Nokia 5800 but when you holistically consider that it was competing against a cheaper, heavier and smaller engine car you realise that the iPhone 3G performance is by all evaluation actually either at par or below par given its lighter weight and bigger engine.

Ziko Mgbatogu

Okay,
its easy to say there is an iPhone killer. But you cant kill the iPhone.
There will never be an iPhone-killer, cause the iPhone does what it should do:
- it works flawless as a phone
- it is easy and intuitive to use
- it has a WLAN module working fast and without problems
- it is not too bulky but big enough to give some real estate on a screen
- it has some ‘flair’ to it which is a plus for customers!!
- its nice to look at
- it has some quality apps in its store- considering how young the store is
to sum up only a few aspects.
Of course it has some flaws:
- it lacks BT
- it cant edit Office documents
BUT Apple was the first to introduce such a phone!! Nokia is only copying like all the other companies instead of evolution!

Symbian s great for productivity, but it isnt as simple as the Apple iPhone.
Symbian has great potential but needs a capable and fast processor otherwise it sucks and is really slow. I know what I am talking about I tried and used all the E-Series devices - actually this is posted on an E-Series device.

Apple for consumer
Nokia for business
BUT BOTH have their right to coexist. Anybody else claiming one is better than the other is not considering the individual..

This my first post EVER on thr iphone vs “the rest”
Anyone remembers when Motorola introduced the original razr? It was the craze of everyone! nearly everyone had one…i however stuck to the nokia 6620/6600
i make this comparison to say this…back then the razr was all beauty,no brain…..future: the iphone vs “the rest”
what i can defend the iphone above any other touch device is the “eye candy”….the UI is impressive.so much so that this is the focus point of the iphone for me……the beauty/”eye candy” of the user interface……the iphone wins hands down here….
moving on however, “the rest” ie the 5800 beats the iphone in every department….as listed already in this article
someone stated earlier about the apple app store….there is the download! folder(yes admittedly not as savy as the apple app store) in the 5800 as well as symbian being an open source platform thus enabling numerous developers to efficiently create apps for the device….unlike iphone users who must clearly wait for apple to release an app….symbian/nokia we are not dependant on the leniency of the manufacturer…
For example the N95 had an app created called “landscape pro” which rotated the screen of the N95 in both directions! This wasnt an app created by nokia but by a developer, thus reinforcing the point of “open platform” and “not being manufacturer dependant”
Ill add some insult to injury here but can the iphone do this?
http://cellnology.vox.com/library/post/video-rock-n-scroll-beta-1.html
(again an open source application)
Lastly, another comment made was the speed of the iphone in comparison with someone stating the iphones 700 mgz….
to that comment i say “implementation”
ie you can have a faster spec’d/clocked processor but it all comes down to how the OS implements it. So the 5800 may have 369mgz processor but its how the OS of the 5800 implements it that counts! it can/still/will be as snappy as the iphone or marginally slower

i do apologize about my winded rant but imho i just cant see what the big deal is with the iphone….
even my old n95 beats the iphone hands down
again i say can the iphone do this?
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/008/09/HandWave_touchless_interface_by_samir.htm

ps the N series touchscreen is announced..goodbye iphone!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/nokia-unveils-flagship-n97-phone/

iPhone has html-mail support, which 5800 lacks. But I’d prefer 5800 anyway :-).

dudes…nice discussion going on…..NOKIA IS AWESOME IN ALL ACCEPTS….nothing can beat it…APPLE is far more good in laptops compared to cell phones….IPHONE lacks some basic needs that everyone wants…..no video recording-what is the use without it,video resoultion sucks in IPHONE-jus check some 5800 video playback u will remain stuck to it just like tv,they r stunning…not like dull videos in IPHONE…coming to camera-what fuck we can do with 2MP camera,no copy paste,no forwarding…
BUT ONE THING I LIKE IN IPHONE IS ITS TOUCH IS EASY AND FASTER AND ITS THIN.other than this application store for apple,people think its very easy to run any application on iphone…DUDES-THESE IS THE FACT-”NOKIA IS COMING IN APPLICATION PLATFORM WITH SYMBIAN AS OS,IT ACQUIRED IT…JUS WAIT AND SEE HOW IPHONE GONNA LOOSE ONCE THE NO.1 MOBILE MAKER NOKIA STARTS DEVELOPING APPLICATIONS,RECENTLY DEVELOPERS R MAKING APPLICATIONS—–SO JUST WAIT AND WATCH,
NOKIA JUST ENTERED TOUCHSCREEN MARKET ”ITS BEGINNING NOT THE END”

been using iphone since launch only things it lacks..
Superior camera quality.. and bluetooth file transfer… and i think fm radio <– impt to me =/

Nokia 5800 is already available in the market (UAE) and it is half the price of iPhone and almost all the features are there. Especially the better camera and sound quality.
Ofcourse the smoothness of scrollingpages in iPhone is not there in 5800, but still with all the points you have mentioned in this article, Nokia 5800 is surely a iPhone killer.

The main advantage is the stylus.

I am using 5800 now, it’s been only for few days. I’ve used my friend’s iPhone 3G 8GB(AT&T service plan) for quite some time.

I have to say that both 5800 and iPhone are two totally different things. They are designed for two different kind of markets.

As far as I’m concerned, Nokia smartphones are more focused on the “business” kind of market; professionals doing business, people that travels a lot and need extreme mobility etc..This means most of the smartphones are designed to help these people doing their jobs by putting business application, PC connectivity software, easy SMS MMS software, e-mail software, video call, 3G(or even now 3.5G), etc..I don’t really feel that Nokia focuses on the entertainment side; well, we can say that Xpress Music is kind of an approach to do more entertainment in Nokia smartphones but still I think that this was not the main focus on designing Nokia’s smartphones.

On the other hand, iPhone is targeted for people who wants more entertainment in the phone. The design of the phone itself gives the sign that this phone is meant to be an entertainment device. Tons of games and entertainment application, superb multimedia and user interface that looks very stylish; these things will satisfy people who look for more entertainment in their smartphones. I assume these people are not professional businessman and don’t really need super SMS and MMS software, extreme mobile email application, or even maybe video call.

I just think that comparing these two will not going to prove which one is the best. I used iPhone for few weeks and I really loved the games; this phone is really designed for entertainment purposes and it does the job very well. I am using the 5800 for a week now and I really think that the SMS, MMS, video call, 3.5G and other mobility application really suits my need in doing business.

Now imagine that you force iPhone to run business applications although you know that it is designed more for style and entertainment..

Imagine that you force 5800 to run extreme entertainment applications although you know the fact that this phone is business-oriented..

Two different things, you will never be able to find which one is better than the other..

I know the terms Xpress Music means more entertainment..Nokia understand this term very well, and it put some flexibilities in entertainment side. But still, the whole idea behind Nokia is business and mobility..

iPhone also has some useful business application available for the users. But still, iPhone is entertainment oriented..

So I would think that 5800 is better for users who seek for a bit more entertainment in business and mobility oriented smartphone and iPhone is better for users who seek more entertainment and multimedia smatphone with just a bit of business tools.

Maybe my ideas were not right, but hey, they’re just not my opinion and I just want to share them here :p

NOKIA IS THE EXCELLENT PHONE EVER. SOUND IS CLEAR, FRIENDLY USER “EASY TO USE”, CLASSY AND AFFORDABLE. THAT’S WHY I DID NOT BUY IPHONE BECAUSE APPLE COMPUTER IS ALREADY NOT FRIENDLY,IT IS REALLY HARD TO USE AND IT’S LIMITED ; NOT HAPPY. I AM BUYING NOKIA 5800 FOR SURE WHEN IT IS COME OUT.

well…for me nokia 5800 is anyday a winner and iphone killer..i stay in india and iphone in india costs 800 us dollar..and nokia 5800..just 375 dollar…now u tell me with those featurres….who can beat 5800..
hats off nokia…and also thanx to nokia

Everybody goes on about Apple bringing out the first Touch screen phone, or atleast bringing it out before most brands, but in actual fact,Nokia brought out a touchscreen phone long before apple. It may not be the same format, but Nokia still had it first. Nokia 7710. http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_7710-921.php

Oh, I still want to buy that Tube…

Just waiting for black edition in my country!! BEUH!!

This is good post thanks mate ! All the questions in my mind gone.I will planning this but i was little confused with iphone.
I made my decision this is the real iphone killer..

Just a couple of more points.

I] If I am not wrong, 5800 isn’t released out everywhere. Both the phones are available in India. The price differentials look something like this:

iPhone:
8GB - INR31,000 [~USD633]
16GB - INR36,100 [~USD736]

N5800:
8GB - INR19,100 [~USD389]
16GB - INR25,000 [~USD510]*

Prices in INR are confirmed, those in USD are calculated @49INR/USD.

*Nokia Concept Store in Delhi say that 16GB is not more than INR6,000 more, and will be available to from February.

II] Indian market is an extremely price sensitive market and this is heavily assisting Nokia in getting a solid response. While the Nokia Concept Store I talked to refused to give away how many handsets are getting sold, they were insistent that they were getting sold like ‘hot cakes’.

III] iPhone in India too has linked up with service providers. Traditionally, ALL of GSM market in India uses phones which are not restricted to one player. When we get a better phone, all we do is take out the SIM card and put it in the new phone and get rid of the old phone by selling it second hand. Nokia maintains sanctity of this rule where its easier for newer products to come and replace their older counterparts - point worth stressing because the purchasing power parity of an Indian isn’t too high; he can’t very easily buy a new phone WITHOUT selling the old handset, but the PPP is high enough to pay the differential price increase for the new phone.

IV] Distribution: Unlike iPhone, Nokia is not only made for ALL GSM providers, but it is also the way they are selling it. iPhone is available at select outlets of the GSM service providers. Nokia is selling through independent franchisees who are purely mobile phone sellers [eg Hotspot]. And these independent people are comparing Omnia, iPhone and 5800. Of the couple I visited, they all are PUSHING for 5800, outlining the drawbacks in other phones. Hence sale is stronger and picking up.

There has been some talk in this discussion about the next versions of iPhone keeping up with or even bettering the Tube5800. It is assumed, that in the mean time Nokia will be sitting idle. Which is so wrong!

Check this out, while we were all discussing, Nokia is looking to launch the N97, which does not have the same Entertainment utilities as 5800, but scores on number of other points like camera[5MP], battery, and many more.

So to drive the point, Nokia has a faster phone release cycle time.

Link: http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N97

ps: while, it is worth comparing N97 against the iPhone, don’t miss comparing it with 5800 as well!

first of all nokia has been restricted to put all the software they can on their mobile phones by the fcc. because they’re afraid that it will beat all the u.s. based manufacturer’s.

if you go around the world you’ll see most of the people in asia, europe, australia, canada have nokia’s. nokia’s been in the market far more than the iphone. it’s just fcc restricgted them to show the full potential of they’re mobile phones.

nokia no need compare iphone with 5800. just use the nokia old phone,
like 3310
iphone vs 3310 i think is fair LOL

hi guys…since the day of the iphone went to market, i been surfing the net for the quality o the phone. thank you for the comaprison. now i have my 5800 and very much happy also the money i saved. well my sister is unfortunate coz she got the iphone and locked for two years……

u forgot 1 thing!
5800xm supports flash and iphone or as i like to call
it ishit dosent!

Ethanfid92- Yes of course, like any other Nokia phone you can transfer media from your PC to Nokia 5800 and vice versa.

If you are looking for best deals in UK, here is some info we have-
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@rob: nokia 5800 comes with music is free for the whole one year
I’ve tried it and it works so I can download as many song as I want
maybe you’re just being fooled by the buyer lol

i think somewhere exists 20 reasons why iphone is better than nokia5800

but then again, it’s not just about what’s true and what’s not; you read what you want to know

i just got my new nokia and my misses got an iphone theres no comparison the battery life on the nokia is far better and the screen well its much better shes kicking herself now she should have had a nokia .myself i always had nokias as the format for acessing featuers on the phones have always been the same and easy to find with the iphone i found you have to scroll through load of aplication to find what you want my only consern is it new and and major floors or problem has yet to show up

Hi all
I was looking to exchange my Iphone for a nokia 5800,But the thing is,After you jailbreak the iphone.You pretty much have everything beside very little couple of things.Things not on iphone right now are Flash,and 3.0 camera.Other then that it has everything once you have it jailbreak.Ok say you didn’t jail break.The only thing that stopped me from getting a nokia is that iphone has double speed then it.BUT only reason to get nokia for me now is FLAsh and that everyone has iphone and im tired of looking at it:P.Can you guys give me some thought on why get nokia? Battery ,Flash,Camera are already on my mind,what else?

i really loved iphone but never got it and as dad allowded i wanted to buy iphone but since nokia 5800 has come am surprised and confused on which to buy…. who has a nokia 5800 how is it is it beta then iphone……

@Samir
That is what i am saying,OK if you buy an iphone and get it jailbroken(Which everyone who has iphone have done),then you have copy $ paste,Bluetooth coming soon,folders,what else… Awsome short cuts,smoothness,great webbrowser,BUT the HUGE HUGE thing is the mulitouch,seriously that makes loads of difference and lastly the APPS Games are FUN and smooth.I was looking at videos of Nokia and saddly you sometimes see BLOCKS PIXCELS in games because its java.
Nokia has Flash ,Camera and battery mainly.MIND YOU,i really want to buy Nokia AND IM TELLING THIS BECAUSE NO ONE SEEM TO HAVE MENTIONED THIS IPHONE STUFF HERE.I hope N97 comes to the stage.

im planning to buy this nokia 5800 i think its pretty awesome..but im thinking about it bec in its features its not n gage.. can someone tell me about it.. bec i love games too where to download games? and other application for 5800.. thanks

I used both iPhone and 5800 extensively. I better half owns an iPhone and I own 5800.

I have three complaints about Nokia 5800:

1) vertical scrolling is awful - a SCROLL BAR on touch screen! how could they make such a huge mistake is beyond me

2) it’s sluggish. you often see “(no data)” flash across screen before the content is (slowly) drawn on the screen. unprofessional and ugly. i can hear symbian users cry “but it’s faster than any other symbian phone!” - i don’t care, it IS slow, especially drawing icons and lists.

3) the UI is very ugly compared to iPhone - icons are plain and ugly, themes amateurish. definitely not a phone you want to show off to anyone.

and How abot Nokia`s body quality?
iphone in this is better

p.s. i use SE

“Look! My iPhone is so beautiful and looks so great! :D”
“Yeh! That looks really cool! And i love that photo you got there! Can you send it to me?”
“Of course! Do you have a cable?”
“Err… Cable?! Don´t you have bluetooth??”
“Yeah… I do… But… Just for the headphones…”
“Just for the head…? WTF?! Ok… Just send it to me by MMS…”
“Err… Can´t do that either…”
“Ok…. Just forget it…I´ll take my own photo…”

okay ppl.. u might compare products like these two.. n yeah they are outstanding.. iphone on its own place n nokia on its own.. they both are making products world wide which are reaching the top markets..
These mobile phones have their differences too no doubt.. but look at the future.. mobiles like Iphone and Nokia 5800 gives us a signal on what all mobiles are too come more n more with better options, features etc…
As long as i could say.. i just read a comment from Mikey.. id jus lyk to say tht.. bro maybe u have a phone problem or something.. because i have a nokia 5800 n it dosnt have all these problems beleve me..
for the rest of the people if they talk about graphics and all… then for those who have nokia 5800.. herez a tip for em.. go to settings.. theme.. general.. n then options.. ull c theme effects which is turned off.. turn em on and then u will c the real outcomming of 5800..
hope u guyz lyk it..
bie tczz
Syed

I’m sorry. Considering this ‘review’ is from October last year, I focused mainly on the comments.
As someone who moves in large circles, I’m constantly seeing folks ogle each others’ tech, and I’ve yet to see someone say, “Ooh! Is that a Nokia 5800?!!” On the other hand, even the non-technical people I encounter seem to exclaim “Hey - that’s an iPhone!” and spend forever comparing notes on what apps they’ve installed, whether or not it’s jailbroken, etc. I have yet to hear anyone in a casual setting exclaim anything like “Yeah, it’s an iPhone, but it’s a whopping 133 grams, is a quarter-inch too small and doesn’t support Bluetooth keyboards.” Every single iPhone user I’ve ever met is an advocate (except for strangers on internet comments).

My point: Apple has cornered the market on user-experience and user-acceptance, and capitalizes at ever step they can. Small note on points 11 & 14 above, they don’t count if you include FREE apps from the Appstore. I won’t mention the slew of free apps if you jailbreak the iphone (oops, too late).

Hi All, I’m using my 5800 for over a month now and very happy with it BUT…
Yes it has issues which almost everyone forget to mention here.
I’ve never used an iPhone (even though I’m still considering to buy one) so my experience with the 5800 is completely unbiased. (UK Red on the old firmware still)

So here comes my bug list:
- I don’t want to repeat Mikey [89] but its a major bug: Vertical Scrollbar
- Makes things even worse its used everywhere! Even in the menus!!!
- The phone sometimes completely useless without the stylus.
- Awful motion sensor which switches sometimes without any good reason.
- You can turn the motion sensor off but for the phone not for individual apps
- The screen switch between landscape and standing mode is very slow
- Actually every screen change (navigating the menus) is slow
- After changing to landscape mode the hotkey like menu covers 1/4 of the screen why? (By using icons instead of text it shouldn’t be taking more space)
- Search on the home screen is a joke
- Galery showing every photo, no folders, no tags no nothing. (8G mem = 16thousand photo!)
- Photo quality is substandard (discolored grainy)
- Virtual keyboard failed on So many levels.
- First of all confusing.
- on full qwerty Never find special characters.
- The numeric keys shuffled around (zero to the right?!)
- No application specific virtual keyboard setup (like in messenger I always want to use the qwerty)
- Limited character num in writing?! (Yeah this probably app spec. but I couldn’t be able to write a mail in the webbrowser because of this…)
- If you are unlucky enough to using the full qwerty once the Next time when you need to use keyboard you forced to turn the phone into landsacpe mode. Why?
- Accept key in the top left corner? Very hard to reach and confusing as well (as every keyboard has the enter to the right)
- No cancel key
- Not recognising the touch properly. If you press one virtual key then when you release it you might hit something closer to the bottom. It also goes unnoticed as its below your finger (the higher rows should have a higher priority)
- Contact screen smart search. Utterly confusing. The most prominent key is the green accept key (which is I don’t know how but at the right place on the bottom right) changing position while you are narrowing the search. The next page button almost unnoticabble… (Have you tried to use this search with Fringe while its updating the user list? Terrible…)
- Battery indicator broken. One minute its fine then its shutting the phone itself done. Sometimes it warns then goes another hour.
- No way to switch profile while on the charger. (Well with exspensive paying application you can). On the charges no vibrating effect. But because of the unreliable battery level indicator its always on the charger so missing calls a lot…
- In general the buttons (especially the menu entries) are not big enough for finger use
- There is always two mandatory menu options: Show all running apps (white middle hard key so why?), and exit which most of the time scrolled out of screen.
- No way to kill an application in the task manager (yet again you can with paying application)
- The hard keys are very hard to press especially after you are used to the typing on the virtual key (Nokia would have been better of to put touch hard keys on the device. Even worse the N97 also comes with these keys…)
- No built in auto fill forms like word expanding in the virtual qwerty keyborad. (You have to start writing something then go back to the browser if its found any matches if not go back to the virtual keyb…)
- Application install/uninstall is a major pain. Its throwing so many technical /cryptic / warning info into your face then you think twice before you install anything ever again. (If you are a programmer like me you will understand what the messages are all about but I honestly I don’t give a damn. If you are not a programmer you probably don’t have a clue whats going on anyway)
- After install you have to find your App run it just to find out that is broken. (90% of apps are broken becase this new 5th platform so new). Then you have to navigate to the insall manager which deeply hidden. Find your freshly installed app then you finally allowed to uninstall it…
- App manager allows two applications by the same name. Which one do you want to uninstall: hard to decide.
- Phone memory User Folder completely trashed by different random S60 apps. No standart how to store the App user data.
- Duplicate numbers under different user names results that the phone not recognising the incoming calls. (Not even giving a hint whats going on!) Even after you clean up your phonebook the call records are not updating. (With a 100 phonebook - hello business users - its impossible to see if the call was important)
- If you have a meeting and you missed your alarm the first time you come back pick up your phone turn it on if anything happened in the past 10 minutes but you will see as if nothing happened! (yes it will try to ring you later but inbetween two alarms there is no visual indication whats going on)
- Going back to the last page in the browser is painful.
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The list is long and it doesn’t end here.

All in all I think Nokia completely missed the point of touch screen. The input should be easier more natural and more fun! than the old fashioned keyboards…

I recently bought the nokia 5800 and it is awesome

What the…. all this mention of subpar “processors” in Nokia phones has got me fired up.

Imagine, for example…

Computer A : Core 2 Quad Extreme 3.6Ghz - Windows Vista (eye candy OS)

Computer B : Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz - MS Windows 7

We surely know the answer here, which computer would perform better ?

The only reason the Iphone has a FASTER processor is because the OS is SLUGGISH.

wouldn’t you agree ?

all those skeptics, get hold of a nokia 5800xm, try it out. its not slow.

if too many apps are open in the background, close the apps before testing it out. Symbian OS multitasks as good as any multitasking OS.

also, nokia 5800 has tv out! pretty awesome feature for a phone

Okay, I’ve been looking into this phone for more than a month now. I’m pretty much set on buying this phone, but I’m still looking into my options. I’m coming from a Nokia 6288 which I’ve been pretty pleased with since I like the aesthetics of it (slide phone). However, it doesn’t have any of the new features that’s offered in phones nowadays like wifi. I know touch screen is probably the way to go for future phones, but I’m skeptical on the response. I’ve been hearing mixed comments about Nokia’s resistive screen. Do you have to use your nails or would it respond to finger touches as well?

“* this is application specific. the screen is too small to have the keyboard appear together with the app. iphone does it because the screen size is bigger. 5800 could do it, it has higher resolution screen, but then its a small screen so you would not be able to see it clearly.”
^Jananan, I’m not sure what you mean. If you use a messenger app, you will not be able to type in full screen qwerty?

Also, how does the 5800 compare to say.. HTC Magic which is supposedly going to be the new T-mobile G2.

~Thanks

I intend to buy the N 5800 (before I used the N 5300), however I’m still confused wether or not to sell my old phone. It’s an old mate, I’ve used it for 2 years. I could just repair it (the LCD was broken by accident).

I hope N 5800 could get cheaper soon btw why doesn’t it have the white version? I mean it will be totally cool. Looks minimalistic.

Honestly, I think you’re a bit of a Nokia fanboy and all this “iPhone killer” crap will prove to be just wishful thinking. But hey! That’s just me. We’ll wait and see.

Concerning Symbian you should be aware that you cannot easily install freeware applications because of the extremely complicated signing process.
Granted - signing is a useful security measure for the casual user but it also keeps you from installing a lot of useful freeware applications. Opensigned is not an option for many applications because you cannot give the application sufficient permissions there.

Symbian uses full DRM to limit your rights on your *own* phone. Its DRM for software - just say *no* to this like you do for MP3-DRM! You are completely dependent on Symbian’s graciousness.

I have bought a 5800 a week ago but will give it back and buy a G1 instead because of these restrictions.

and with each update they software overclock the cpu more i learned that cause i paid close attention to everything. people thought it moved faster because of the updates which really were not much of an update more than adding things and locking the phone down more. from 400mhz to 450mhz, the funny thing is the cpu speed is really 620mhz wow apple is a joke. so everytime you think your update makes your iphone faster its really not. that speed was cut down by apple.

wow, it took me such a long time to read through all the comments and feedbacks and i do agree with them. In my opinion, the Iphone was successful because they had came out with the ipod touch previously which made the company famous , in that sense. As a owner of a Nokia 5800, i would say it is much better in terms of style and shape. The Nokia uses a resistive touchscreen therefore i would say that the Iphone is better in this way. The first time when i heard about the Iphone 3G i thought it would have a camera at the front but it turned out to be CRAP!! The nokia has a good user interface which makes easy for us to type etc. I do agree that Iphone is stylish and all, but in terms of basic features, the Nokia has it all. Apple should have thought about this matter. And to buy an Iphone, i had to wait in-line for 18 hours which is ridiculous. I would recommend the Nokia XM5800 to all of you!!

yes the above things are 100 percent correct 5800 is an iphone killer to me iphone is down and i am going to buy a nokia 5800 express music

Beside above mention, I like to point out somethings good of iPhone 3G, Nokia 5800 XM is not that perfect, and others manufacture touch phone is not that bad also. Below is my opinion splitting to two part.

iPhone is better than 5800:
Speed - definitely iPhone, it is the smoother phone ever done.
Touch - multi-touch technology is unbeatable at the moment. You cannot get such feeling using 5800, 5800 cannot do what you touch is what you get. Even my Samsung Pixon touch is better than Nokia 5800.
Slimmer - Ya Nokia 5800 is lighter but the weight is too high, 15.5mm (oh no! I won’t buy any phone thicker than 15mm). For me 5800 is bulky.
Future Firmware UpdatesEvery new version iPhone software came with new functionality. (This never happen to Symbian or any phones which normally will only include bugs fix)

5800 is better than iPhone:
Camera - definitely iPhone camera suck!
LCD - 5800 resolution is great and color is vibrant.

Both phone equal
3rd party programBoth is equally a lots to choose from.
Music PlayerBoth equally having decent player with great sound output.

Hey, nokia 5800 also has wlan, but iphone doesn’t has it.
*i’m not speak english well *

One advantage in the iPhone is the dragging and scrolling.This has a much more fluent control and allows for easy ’swiping’.

Despite this I would still favour the 5800 in any circumstance.

Quite a surprise here this morning, had introduction to the iPhone and how it will be tied into company services and management. The first line from the presenters lips said it all: “We will move from ‘mobile phone with some computer like functions’ to ‘handheld computer with mobile phone functions’, to improve our productivity”. Immediately after that was said I heard: “Great, games, yipee!” from the audience.

After seeing the presentation and trying out the official company iPhone version, I have to say ‘WOW’. Some of the features will not work with 2.0 (shown was 3.0 version), and they might even require the next generation (faster) iPhone, but, BUT! Nokia better come up with something hot fast.

What was interesting, they showed what could be done with competing phones and platforms, not much, they are all “poor man’s iPhones”.

One of the really cool things was Bluetooth conferencing, other one about the kind of accessory will be available for the dock connector,then; extra battery - very cool, just like a back cover, no need to shut down iPhone, just slap it on and triple the run time; Push services -awesome, and many more.

In the end the presenter said: “By the way, all the pictures were taken with iPhone”. Huh? But everybody has said the camera sucks, then I realized all the photos were taken in good lighting. My N95 takes good pics too but shows considerable noise in low light.

I didn’t even know that we had internal department developing for iPhone, and yes, there was no Apple person around to create an extra reality distortion field.

The kind of good news is that, me as a bean counter of some sort, will also get an iPhone, but probably just the current generation, after the first wave guys get their 3.0 phones as upgrades.

Cloudmaster took me here, so I just update the iPhone part without reading the comments. There seems to be a lot of old info about iPhone.

1,2,3. iPhone/iPod Touch is a handheld computer with bigger multitouch glass screen, I haven’t heard anybody complaining about resolution or even mentioning it, but I’m pretty sure Apple will upgrade the screen in the next iPhone version, so they can say: “Yeah, that old iPhone screen sucks, but the new one”.

4. Storage: 8GB seems to be enough for most people, I had problems with my Communicator memory cards, so I prefer built in memory.

You might need 16GB if you use iPhone as a wireless HD (DataCase app) and move big files. For movies 8GB is enough, iTunes will auto sync and swap the stuff you have already watched. My former workmate has thousands of books and owners manuals on his iPodTouch, still lot of space left. (But wait Apple to announce bigger memory iPhones:”Old ones have so little memory, they suck, buy the new one”).

5. Input methods: finger, (Pogo) stylus, handwriting, swipe (40 words per minute with ShapeWriter)

6. Features, a lot more than in 5800, and more coming with 3.0 software update in June 2009 or before. Over 10000 apps specialized custom apps. Even more features coming with 3.0 when the dock connector will be opened to 3rd party developers.

7. Hundreds of colors available through cases, covers, stick-on’s, tons of other accessories.

8. Battery life up to 3 weeks, prices start from $5 for emergency batteries, snap-ons from $20, solar chargers, docks, so many.. The built in battery will outlast the Phone, at least with iPods that seems to be the case. You will buy a new one before the battery is getting too weak.

Battery life comes very important when you play games for hours, one friend of mine has a cool custom made iPhone game case with build in battery and gets whole day of heavy gaming action out of it.

9. Camera: more pixels would be nice, I guess (available in the next gen iPhone). The real problem is low light performance, which will always be bad in mobile phones, unless you start with a camera and add phone function in it. iPhone has lot of apps to “photoshop” the pictures, a nightshot stabilizer app, and lot of funny apps (check out the Wobble)

10,11. Video recording with jailbrake iPhone, wait for 3.0 update

12. OVI = poor man’s iTunes, but the Comes with Music is a good if you are into music and basically just need a phone (and can find all the music you need from there).

13,14 iPhone has Voice recording, voice and picture dialing apps for free or heart breaking 0.99 cents.

15, Safari is much more useful web browser, no flash though, 3.0 maybe? Adobe has it ready.

16. No FM, unless your station is on netradio, which there are thousands on iPhone. iPhone can play any users shared iTunes library over the air or WiFi. I have used FM on my Nokia phone, but it’s not something I would say a “killer app”, it doesn’t work well most of the time.

17. Bluetooth > 3.0 update
18. Messaging > 3.0 update

19. Nokia 5800 seems pricey for what it offers, but is good as a phone. You are stuck on the same old operating system and the plasticky, but very high quality case.

20. Nokia has questionable reputation for writing operating system / SDK software, even less experience with touch based handheld computers = interface designs.

Nokia 5800 is not a “iPhone killer” wait for their next model, and hope the best. Never underestimate what Nokia can come up with.

in reply to yassef, let’s just stick to CURRENT MODEL and SOFTWARE, not “wait for 3.0 update” or “next gen iPhone”, it’s been 6 months and it is still the same issue… future iPhone vs Nokia 5800

FOR F*** SAKE!!!

Nokia’s the best. Nokia 5800 is the best. Iphone suck.

I have both phones…. Nokia 5800 and iPhone. A Jailbroken iPhone is 100% better that Nokia 5800. This damned nokia 5800 sucks. i don’t thinks its an iphone killer at all. iphone sales still up than nokia 5800.

I have not owned the IPHONE. But just bought the Nokia 5800 (I live in uk) on vodafone on a cashback offer which works out to be around 100 GBP. can you tell me is there any way i can knock atleast a little of price on IPHONE????
I only would have dreamt of owning an iphone, but NOkia made my dreams realistic with their realistic price. There are some arguments that Iphone build quality is good, who cares? I change my mobiles every year and you got a warranty for that year.
But I would say both Nokia and Iphone have their merits and demerits. Applications available on nokia or less coz its not been there in the market for a while. But the screen resolution is amazing. I had just finished watching a hour long video on Iplayer, I bet you like it.
I only say stop comparing the camera capabilities. IPHONe and NOKIA 5800 both suck on this. I have a LG Renoir, these two are no where near the comparison to renoir.
I strongly believe its all boils down to this….
what are you interested in
1. camera
2. applications
3. music
4. size
5. AFFORDABILITY

For me, NOkia 5800 is still heads up. I feel IPHONE is like a AUDI or Lamborghini car, where they maintain the steady price and causes illusions in the minds of hte people that they dont depreciate as much as their competitors over the time….
But Nokia 5800 since its induction had already shed around 35-40% on its price making it more affordable to reaching far outer sections of the audience. Iphones rate fixture sux….

Hmm… I am not sure what to do, i have the money to buy iPhone or Nokia 5800. Thought that maybe entering this site will clear things up for me, as I wasn’t sure witch one to buy. It olny made me more undecided When I saw the blog entry I was like: “I am going to buy the Nokia” but as i scrolled down I was startig to: “I’ll buy the iPhone… I’ll buy the Nokia… I’ll buy the iPhone… I’ll buy the iPhone…” and so on… When I saw Nighty’s comment and I decided to go for an iPhone. Thanks for all the info Nighty, Admin and all others. Have a wonderful day and all the best

P.S.: If i don’t like iPhone i’ll sell it and buy me a Nokia 5800 To be honest, all my life I had only phones from Nokia and they really rock, want to try something new. Also sorry about my english skills (from Romania)

Windows Mobile with Microsoft Voice Commander 1.6 can speak the name of each caller, you can dial with name, it reads SMS, you can ask it to play any music by speaking the name of the band stored in the SD card (say for ex. PLAY QUEEN). I hate MS and I would like to have all those things in another OS, is there something similar for Symbian of Ihpone?

Myself, being an ex-iphone user, can say that the iphone has major dissapointments. No flash, horrible camera, and no bluetooth transferring? C’mon people. We are in the 21st century. Where our lives revolve around internet. And still no flash for a phone costing 600$ unlocked?
Plus, the iphone app store has rather “boring” apps that get old. I owned fieldrunners, touchgrind and even pocket god, but none of them was worth the 3$
Plus, the 5800 has a keyboard that vibrates when you touch each letter in landscape mode. Thats plain out awesome compared to the non landscape mode iphone.

simple!

you can get 3 pcs of nokia 5800XM [red+blue+grey?LoL] for the price of 1 iphone 3G.

ROFL

Pay no consideration to the currency but where I live the 8 GB iPhone costs 850 and the 16 GB iPhone costs 1100. The 5800 costs 415, that’s more than half the price - screw the technical comparisons, which Apple doesn’t compare to either -> nuff said!

Yes the features on the Nokia 5800 are obviously advanced as it was recently released. Think about how long ago the iPhone was released! Also the iPhone just looks and feels more solid and classy. The Nokia 5800 feels a bit cheap and plastic-ish. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Nokia 5800 is a killer phone with a full house of specs but Nokia still has a bit to learn about style and quality… Just thought I would add my 5cents worth.

“What I am really looking forward to is Nokia 5800 coming with built-in Skype.”

You can use Fring or Nimbuzz on Nokia 5800 XPressMusic. Both applications are free and both can make Skype calls. Both also support S&0 5th edition.

I own a Nokia 5800. I am happy to own it. I wanted to buy an iPhone but I didn’t because I need a complete device: I really need to have on the same device at least a good phone, a good gps device (probably I will change the Nokia maps with a dedicated satnav software) and a relatively decent photo camera because I travel a lot. I also needed the freedom of puting any sim card in my phone because I can be in another country every month. Actually the gps made me to buy Nokia not iphone because at iphone you have to have an active internet connection for google maps but Nokia can work as a properly gps device if you pay or if you manage to install a dedicated software (something like navmii or nuvmii - I don’t know for sure).
But there will be no iPhone killer ever. iPhone represents not a device but a concept. I still want to buy an iPhone but probably I will buy a Blackberry Storm. My impulse to buy an iPhone is not related to it’s features it is just an impulse. IPhone will crash any competitor because it is an image, it is like a very beautiful woman that everybody want.
I don’t have any Mac products but I always want one. It is like that bitten apple that they have it as logo - the forbidden fruit - excellent marketing, nice design, good human psychology - it doesn’t matter how good is the product if that product will be only satisfactory.

First of all, forgive my english typing mistakes because i’m not an english speaker.

(i own a Nokia 5800 XM)

There are people who buys a phone because it looks pretty and other who buys a phone because it have great functionality (that’s me)

I need to surf the web, use bluetooth, save my messages, good battery, and this Nokia gives me all of that in a good price.

I believe all depends on what you need of your phone, i’m totally agree with the 20 (and more) reasons given in this post, i think the only one i don’t care too much is the difference between the screen resolution of this 2 phones because is barely recognizable. But if we talk about functionality, then the Nokia 5800 XM is better than this latest iPhone,and that’s why i prefer this Nokia, and i say latest because we all know that this companies always have an as under the hose, for example, if the iPhone doesn’t have a better camera it is because they are not interested on that right now, lets wait for the next iPhone generation. They are not going to show all of his cards now, just look at the Nokia N97 specifications and you’ll see is far better than the 5800XM, and i’m sure they (Apple and Nokia) already have, some monsters phones well hidden waiting the precise moment to launch them into the market and keep the competition, a competition which will never end, not only between Apple and Nokia but between every cell phone companies, and who knows, maybe in 5 years a well known or an unknown company launch a phone beating Nokia and Apple. Technology advances really fast and it’s a little bit pointless (just a little bit) to argue for something that in 6 months will change, or even become so much upset (like Andy at the beginning of this review) for something like this.

So you buy what you like more together with what you need more, and enjoy it while it last, because in 1 year for now, you will have another phone, and wont remember about this Nokia and this iPhone.

Just bought this phone, but only because it was cheap and will do until Apple release the new iPhone in July. Most of the complaints here can be solved with .99c apps.

To me; the most important thing in a laptop is the touchpad. Full stop. When I see videos of the iphone scrolling, page swipes etc, I know my Nokia 5800 sux in comparrison. Heck, I’ve had it over a week and still can’t easily scroll to a specific contact and stop the name on the page.

How do you compete with the pinch function of zooming in Safari. You don’t.
Anyhow, happy with the Nokia for the moment, but will bin it (Give it to my daughter) for the iphone as soon as it comes out. And I’ve never owed one before.

I own an iPhone 3G and I have looked at many other communicators, including Nokia 5800, and I guess you’re finally right: iPhone sucks.

Even the famous multitouch screen is not as good as I thought previously. It reacts when you touch it, not when you press it, and this feels strange, actually. It reacts on even a negligible random touch and this annoys sometimes. Also, you cannot use it with stilus.

That fancy multitouch feature when you can zoom or rotate an image using two fingers is not practical in real life. When I tried to use Google Maps outdoor, I was surprised that it is totally impossible using it with one hand: you always need both. Good old simple buttons would be much more convenient.

The dragging lists are also not so handy. There are no scrollbar you can drag. If a list is long enough, you’ll be looking as a carpenter whittling a wood bar while you’ll be scrolling down the list.

The same thing with the main menu: if there are too many applications, it becomes inconvenient. By the way, the number of installed application is limited to 9 screens in the main menu.

The another well-known flaw is that iPhone is very slippery and instantly becomes soiled as fast as you get it with you hands or hold it at your cheek.

Actually, the only good thing in iPhone is that it looks unordinary and cool (when it’s not soiled with someone’s clammy hands, heh) and has fancy stylish animated UI. That’s all.

There are a couple of things that I strongly dislike in Nokia 5800, though: poor hand-made-looking Symbian UI that is totally borrowed from non-touchscreen devices and absolutely not optimized for touchscreen, and a bit slow screen redraw that makes UI less responsive.

Anyway, I’m getting tired of my iPhone and thinking of a replacement.

thanks a lot for all nice review.

Hi guys,

I’m a Nokia 5800 user and I must say that it is way better than the iPhone. I think, the reason why people say iPhone is still “the best” is because it came out first than the others but here’s a thing. It lacks a lot of capabilities as what this review have said.

We know that someday one mobile company might beat another but that’s the way competition goes. You must know the weaknesses of the other so you can improve your own product. That’s how business competition goes.

So I agree with this review.

EVERYTHING THATS WRITTEN HERE IS SOOOOO TRUE!!

We get lots of requests to compare in detail Nokia 5800 with Apple Iphone 3G. Here are some reasons we believe Nokia 5800 is way ahead than Iphone-

1) Size
I agree with u, but nokia isnt slim enuf …

2) Weight
Correct, U can save 25g of extra load to carry around

3) Screen Resolution
Thats a real good difference.

4) Storage
Agree…. But i dont think any one will buy MMC greater than 16gb unless he’s a real geek.

5) Input Methods
When u get the perfect finger , u dont need any thing else like stylus and stuff

6) Features
Agree, iPhone App store is the best place to make one fall in love with iPhone

7) Colors
Good points for girls who wanna buy red nokia

8 ) Battery
Thumbs up to Nokia

9) Camera
I agree, the cam is not good of iPhone 3G

10) Video Calling
Not sure of this feature

11) Video Recording
iPhoen can record video, using the new app

12) Music Service
Dont be nuts to buy music, use ur mind and u can copy music from iTunes, but iTunes suck big time

13) Voice Dialing
yeah, 3GS only enables this option

14) Voice Recording
Available with 3rd party app

15) Web Browser
M not sure about this

16) FM Radio
Only internet radio

17) Bluetooth
Use bluetooth app to share stuff from iPhone to iPhone (Only for jailbrocken iPhone)

18) Messaging
Missing feature , i agree but not any more with 3GS

19) Price
when it comes to Apple, all that matters is the apple logo!

20) Experience
Nokia has experience, thats why every one will say …ehhh u got a new model of ur phone? while with iPhone ppl say … whoa? wats that?

Verdict:
Let see if nokia gets successfull in killing iPhone … i bet it cant after launch of iPhone 3GS

Hey Admin… Thanks for such a wonderful article… I have learnt a lot from this… I just wanted to know what do you think about the new phone which is being launched by apple - “Iphone 3G S”… Apple has put many things into it which were’nt there in previous Iphone 3G and has launched a new firmware 3.0 for the old Iphone 3G… Do you think that this Iphone 3G S can be the next “Tube killer” or something like that or will our 5800 Tube still be able stand a tough competition to it…? Please post a new article comparing Iphone 3G S and Nokia 5800 Tube… Thankyou…!

iPhone Rocks!!! Nokia shits!!!!!!

Like I said in post 157, a few posts back, I’ll get the Iphone 3G S when it comes out. Well, just got it today. Never used one before etc, took freakin’ ages to activate it, but damn, this is a nice phone. Yup, it may not have the same camera or other stuff my 5800 has but the user interface is sick.
The web browser is so much better it’s a joke. Like I said in the post above, with the 5800 I can’t even scroll to the P’s in my contacts without it skipping to the n’s or the r’s.
I’m gonna ditch vodafone, and contract movistar for 18 months only for the iphone. That says a lot. Shame I can’t get iphone on vodafone but whatever. In Spain, that’s like going from Verizon (awesome) to the shitty AT&T in the States.
Anyhow, to me it’s worth it, …. why? User Interface. Can’t beat it. And yes, the 5800 have many more advanced features etc etc.

my 0.2 cts.

I really like my Nokia 5800 xpress music edition ; but recently i encountered a minor problem.When one updates the phone to the higher version v20 from nokia website , all the preinstalled songs(200 in my phone) with the .dcf format stop getting played.I had to visit the nokia care store to get the licence keys reentered and only then the songs started gettin’ played.In most respects Nokia 5800 surpasses the ‘haughty’ iphone.Besides, as my first cell was a nokia , i have a soft corner for it too:-)

There have been several Ipod killers but i guess ipod is still living and living high. Iphone will do the same.
Iphone surely lacks some of the features that a Nokia 5800 will do easily. But it has got its own charm.
1.Its been two years since iPhone launch but the touch screen interface is still the best in business.
2. App store is one of the best part of iphone. Even though you need to buy stuff but you get anything and everything there. Loads of free stuff too.
3. Iphone doesnt have removable battery but it doesnt give me any reason too for which i would like to remove it.
4. Cut and paste in 3.0 is the best i have seen for any phone.
5. Safari is by far the best mobile browser available.
6. And yes if you need a stylus or addicted to Keyboard you shouldnt buy an Iphone. But its certainly not a flaw in iphone that it doesnt have keyboard. Its for those only who want touch phone.