20 Reasons Why Nokia 5800 is better than Apple Iphone

I’ve bookmarked this entry into my calendar for October 2009. I agree that 5800 has the potential to be an iPhone killer, however I think you may have underestimated Apple somewhat. Have you considered, for example, that the next iPhone may be available even before the 5800 in many important territories.

I don’t wish to dampening your enthusiasm for the 5800, but I fear that your ‘iPhone killer’ battle cry is a tad premature.

I would add that the 5800 works as a 3G modem without additional software.

Okay, I’ll play along;

You say that the iPhone is ‘bulkier’. A simple calculation based on the figures that you have provided show that the 5800 is actually bulkier than the iPhone.

You have completely ignored the most stunning aspect of the iPhone, the App Store. Nokia will struggle to match what Apple have achieved with the iPhone SDK and App Store. iPhone 3rd party support is in its infancy, but yet it has produced some wonderful apps, the likes of which I have never seen on any smartphone!

You mentioned that Nokia have ‘Ages of experience’ whilst Apple is a ‘novice’ in this marketplace. This is true, but only if you totally believe that these new devices are more phone than computer. If like me you believe that what we are seeing here is the birth of the next ubiquitous computing platform then it is Nokia who are ill prepared for the future. Time will tell…

On the subject of pricing. Consider the iPod as an example. The iPhone Nano (or whatever it will be called) will be much cheaper than the current iPhone, and probably less than the standard 5800.

As I’ve already mentioned, the 5800 has potential. The extent of that potential is hard to define at this moment in time. I wish you all the best with your excellent new blog and hope that things work out for the Nokia 5800 as you have foreseen.

The aspects of the 5800 that I’m most excited about are the video capture/editing and the social media tools.

James, Stop posting your crap for the fuc**ng Iphone. Its the worst phone I have ever used. Can u imagine a ‘smartphone’ without bluetooth and MMS capabilities? I cant even surf net properly on it, no support for email saving, computer files saving and no flash support and u call it a computer phone?

The itunes service sucks.. and so do the fuc**ng non removable battery which is stick to iphone’s ass. I see a 3 megapixel camera in most of the good smartphones now, even some have upto 8mp but these idiots still have the same 2mp bundled. And that 2MP one is of no use too if u cant even record videos with it. Have u tried ever to take a photo with Iphone in night? My beautiful wife looks horrible in the Iphone camera. It also have so much messaging problems as listed here. Grrr..

I agree that Iphone is still ahead than anything else on terms of looks, but should I lick those looks if its not having basic features.

You are making your claims about the next so called Iphone version which I cant notice anywhere else? Have u seen the next iphone or u know what it includes. Dont presume anything if u have not seen. You are comparing a future iphone in your imagination which nobody knows about with a present nokia phone which is just out.

All your points are based on assuming terms like “time will tell” “will be much cheaper” “probably” etc. Stop fantasising about the next so called iphone and talk on what you have curently in front of you. If Nokia can launch a better handset than the current iphone, is it not capable of slapping them again when their next iphone will come, will it sit idle?

You call about the App store? My iphone hanged 2 times while downloading and installing those bullsh** applications. I got to restore that from Apple and their service sucks too. They gave back my Iphone after 3 days for making just a simple restore and reinstall of OS.

I m not a 5800 fan yet and cant say much about it till I see it but I just HATE Iphone.

Mohammed, thanks for that.

There may be many many other services and features like Ovi, Qik, etc. which will be finally revealed with the release of Nokia 5800. Who knows we may prepare a list something like “50 Reasons why Nokia 5800 is the Best smartphone”. Cheers!

P.S- For those who do not know about Ovi, its an online social media sharing and files organizing service by Nokia. For details, check out- http://www.ovi.com/services/

James, I apologies on Andy’s behalf. I think he was more frustrated with Iphone than by you. But he bursted after seeing your praise for Iphone. You are most welcome to share your views and comments.

Andy if you are around, please apologies to James.

Peace.

Really good article. I have been following your blog for last 3 months. You have good knowledge
on Mobile(cell phone) Industry and happenings. Please continue the good work. Thank you.

James, I hope you are still around. More comments are welcome from your side to make the discussion more interesting.

Satya, Thanks for your nice words.

Coyote, Thats a great contribution to the topic. Thanks so much for the long comment and the time you devoted for it. Yes we will include most of these points in the upcoming posts.

Thanks for all the comments/trackbacks.
More comments are welcome..

I forgot some points in my previous post:

6) i18n & Unicode: (Internationalization and localization): The S60 platform on Nokia phones easily renders international web pages and other materials and it’s easy to change the overall language of the phone. The S60 also is capable to support text inputing in both RTL (Hebrew, Persian,…) and LTR (English, Spanish,…) languages (Bi-directional) in SMS/emails/contact and in other softwares …
The iPhone can not display RTL web pages and does not support all the unicode transcripts. there is no RTL text-inputing too.

7) Free Xfrer: iPhone (like iPod) make you use a proprietary software to transfer your music to the device. It is the worst thing for a music-savvy device!
Nokia (like SE, Samsung, Creative, …) do not impose you anything. the Phone memory is plug & play and you may even use a RAM reader. I can transfer music/files to the phone even in the terminal of my linux box! (a simple mount, cp, eject)

and, dear admin. would you change the logo of this website please?! too vicious for what it meant. ;-p

GPS turn-by-turn navigation 21st reason?

For me. iPhone is the BEST…….

iPhone have never catch my attention and interest due to its mediocre features and high price as a matter of fact I even switch from my current telecom company to another when I found out that my current telecom company will bring iPhone to the Philippines. Thats how much I hate iPhone being overprice and overhype and it doesn’t even deserve such.

The 5800 is exactly the opposite of iPhone, feature packed with a good value thats why I’m buying one. I will even help promote 5800 as much as I could in my own little way just 2 kill the iPhone crap.

The volume of the Nokia 5800 is 0,82 percent larger than the iPhone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume

The Nokia 5800 is lighter than the iPhone, and therefore bulkier.

[bulky - having great volume in proportion to weight]

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bulky

Personally I like the form of the Nokia phone better – even though the screen is slightly smaller – and I prefer a lighter phone.

But to be correct the Nokia phone is both larger in volume and bulkier than the iPhone…

I like your site. However, alot of things are missing and the list could be two times bigger. For example bluetooth, (a)gps navigation, flash support, better browsing etc..

Oh i just saw coyote’s post and that you are going to make a new one.. anyway.. there is lot more..

Also apple can disable your phone from a distance, brick/lockdown it etc.

You all are true that nokia 5800 is better, but when it comes to compare, say good things of iphone too. For example it has multi touch screen that 5800 lacks, and 640 Mhz CPU while 5800 has 379 Mhz CPU, and I think 5800 with ipod touch will be much better and cheaper and it won’t lacks the abilities that one lacks and they’ll complete each other…

sorry for trying to say something that maybe most of the person here will not agree.
i knew Iphone was not that user friendly from begining,even iphone will not attract me.I just don’t know why everyone are that much to Nokia 5800.
Did we forgot something?
I agree that Nokia 5800 will much more complete in feature.
At the same time,did we forgot that there are still alot of thing that maybe 5800 not able to compare with I phone?
How do you thing on:
The Meterial?
The class?
The sound quality?
The sensitive of the “Motion sensor”?
The fantastic of the Touch control?

Everyone had thier own need.Will the Iphone much more better to the person who looking a phone to match with thier own class?

Will the Nokia 5800 really that useful,stable,durable?who can tell on this?

p/s:sorry if i had alot of grammar misstake.I’m not that good in english.

Guys, to beat the iPhone, Nokia will need to build a great ecosystem around the 5800. That is the biggest competitive differentiator that Apple has developed. Ovi is good, but not specific to the 5800. So ultimately, the phone with the larger ecosystem behind will win. Eg. Microsoft Windows is No. 1 becuase of the ecosystem, otherwise technically Linux is the superior OS.

I just watched a video of this thing in action on YouTube and it really looked pretty bad. I guess in a spec sheet contest the nokia would win but some people only look at a spec sheet and don’t appreciate user interface design, ease of use, and the fluidity of the interface which is what the iPhone excels at and can’t be put on a spec sheet. Who cares if a phone has every feature imaginable if the software isn’t very good?

I love how when he flicks a photo it doesn’t move at all and then a second after he lifts his finger it slides off.

Have both 1g and 2g iphone. Here is the big problem and mistake that Apple has made with the iphone. They have locked it into AT&T. A company that most people hate to do business with and a phone plan that requires a mortgage on your home to purchase. One Apple employee and I were talking about it; his statement to me was that “iphone is the most locked down phone in the world.” Is that a good thing??? If you buy something, isn’t it yours to use with the carrier of your choosing? If Nokia gives us an unlocked phone, they win hands down, no contest!

The App store is very nice, but what apps are actually innovative and useful? I downloaded enough that every page on my iphone was full, then decided to only leave the useful ones on the iphone. Not very many left. The 20 points above are actually quite good.

Apples draconian ways of total control make it very distasteful to many consumers. If we get a good competitor against the iphone, I would switch in a minute to regain my freedom from the claws of the iphone.

Interesting that we carry a world of personal information in our hand that AT&T/Apple has access to. Do we not value our privacy anymore? Is it “okay” for AT&T/Apple to have such control over our privacy? Wars have been fought about this since the beginning of time. It almost seems they are preparing us to be carrying around the “mark” with so much invasion of privacy with the iphone. If Nokia allows the phone to be unlocked, it will be the clear winner and this statement is coming from an Apple fan. If Apple did to their computers what they have done to the iphone, as far as control goes, their computer business would dry up almost overnight. Some things to think about.:)

Given the URL I’m sure this site isn’t biased Anyway, I think lots of the points made are valid but I would like to point out a few more issues.
As a mobile games developer I can tell you that the biggest issue with Nokia phones these days is the OS. Symbian simply sucks. It has evolved over many years and they’ve never really got it right. The iPhone imposes lots of restrictions (no BG apps) but it runs so much more smoothly on similar hardware – they are both roughly 400Mhz ARM processors.
Nokia should stop creating sooooo many phone which are not that different and concentrate on making a few really good ones. This deluge of phones they produce just creates a compatibility nightmare for us developers for no reason. Less is more nokia!
Look at Apple, with 2 phones which are identical really – for us developers it is 10 times simpler to develop for. Take note that all iPhones come with 3D acceleration, all NGage phones do not (including this 5800) – which also simplifies life for a developer.
That, coupled with the App Store, is why we are seeing a surge in development for the iPhone, whilst NGage is struggling.
I hope Nokia can turn it round but it looks to me like too many years without serious competition has made them lazy. I expect the likes of Samsung, LG & HTC to eat further into Nokia Marketshare with their Android phones.

Really great post.. Commenter like James and Andy make it greater. @Andy the pic of your line made me laugh. I support James on the App store point. Nokia needs a App store or the download application needs to be improved. The App store in iPhone is a wonderful thing from which you can discover and download applications and games. It annoys me when many great Apps are made for iPhone or blackberry only. Like Google’s new voice search App. (I frequently comment on their mobile blog reminding them there are other mobiles beside iPhone) why isn’t making apps for Nokia? Apps are primary importance for any device and discovering them should be made easier. @JFK your ecosystem point is correct and important. It’s all about hype, the iPhone’s hype is large that’s why major company create there App for iPhone. This should change.

Let me throw the first wrench into this 2-way battle. The awnser ?……HTC Touch HD.

Some functionality iPhone is missing and not mentioned here are:

1) You cannot send an application to background, which means one application at a time.
2) You cannot use iphone as a stand alone device, you will always need desktop or laptop in order to reset, copy your own stuff like music, pics etc.
3) Tv output is limited to Movies and pictures only.
4) Thanks to Intelliscreen and SMS Notify, without them you cannot even get notification icons and detils of notes and calendar. In order to get these you need to jailbreak your phone.
5) no themes even wallpaper on standy screen for people who want to use it without jailbreaking. The only option is to get wallpaper on lock screen.
6) Lock code is only limited to 4 digits numeric.
7) Video Calls are limited to some service providers. Missing Advanced Wifi security Patches. you cannot connect to WIFI having advance security settings.
9) Limitations of Landscape mode: Text, emails, main screen.
10) streaming linked videos missing. no software available to date in order to watch tv.
11) you will be restricted to hear and watch only apple supported formats. no software to date in order to listen or watch formats like rm and avi etc.
12) unable to delete individual text messages, you have to delete whole conversation or jailbreak and go for other softwares.
13) version 2.0 onwards finish the ability to autostart software or even start software from slepp mode. like iphone azan will not work on 3g if you want to be notified by azan sound on prayer times, even there paid version.

Just one question. Is the Nokia 5800 as easy as iphone 3G while syncing podcasts ?

Amongst all the articles that I have read regarding the same topic, this is the most concise. I’ve been on the lookout for a possible “iPhone killer” and I think that this is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Good thing I stumbled upon your post. Great work!

“to Ivan”

very interesting post you put up there. now, 1.why exactly do people buy phones, is it because there’re expensive or it meets your needs in terms of requirements even if its expensive but atleast meets the needs? 2. now ask the current iphone users (incuding me), if 5800 came in the same time as the iphone which would they have gone for? well, i guess the answer is obvious.

hello guys about nokia tube ur right. it can beat iphone but remember iphone who brought the advance touch screen generation.ya iphone will bounce back in few years with more advance technology.we have to wait and see that. till now i think nokia 5800 xpress music is the best phone in terms of its features and so on………….BUT LOOK OUT FOR NOKIA LATEST BUT YET TO BE RELEASED NOKIA N97 the outstandin phone ever made…………………

comparing the iphone and n5800 which is more sturdy and long lasting?? because thats the most important part of the phone.. i have used the n78,n81,n95 an out of them onli the n81 did not break and nw im plannin to buy one of the two phones-iphone and n5800 any advice??with reference to long lasting about 15 of my friends have been usin the iphone since 8 months and the n5800 is new.. any advice??

Hi Friend,
I also think nokia 5800 is better than iPhone. I am a true lover of nokia phones as I have used many of them including various phones of N-series. I have alse used phones of Samsung, Sony, Motorola. BUT one thing I don’t like at all about nokia phones is it’s PROCESSOR, which is very slow compare to iPhone, Samsung, Sony and Motorola phones.

ALL NOKIA PHONES USE A LOW QUALITY PROCESSOR, EVEN NOKIA N-SERIES.
N-96 uses a process of clock speed not more than 400 MHz. Could u belive it ? It’s true.

I think nokia should think to improve its process quality.

Thanks, I think u would also egree with me..

Hey,

I have used the iPhone as well as the 5800.

Sure the iPhone looks great and all,

BUT after some time, you just dont think it looks all that and you crave for utility.

I think the 5800 still has some way to go before common things like the accelerator function can match upto iPhone, but remember, the iPhone also started with umpteen problems, and is now what it is after more than 5 updates (at least I updated 5 )

Further additions to all the points by you guys above, which make me think that Nokia will be able to come out tops are:

1. The Video out (obviously after the ability to CAPTURE video in the first place). I find this function very useful as I can watch the same mp4 format movie either while travelling, or when I reach home and the quality is good, with least effort

2. The small stand that Nokia gave us to put the phone and watch a video. Come on Apple, I could not have thought that you could miss something like this. That when I can only watch movies in landscape mode on the iphone, I think Nokia gets the cake here

3. Although users dont realize it now, but after the 400 charges that iPhone mentions, it is quite an effort to get the battery changed. I had issues with the battery and so I know.

4. Finally, Since both are being sold as entertainment units (I saw someone mention that this is a business use smartphone & I disagree – pls see the face – it says EXPRESSMUSIC), how could Apple think of anything except 3.5mm jacks. Kudos to Nokia again

I haven’t even touched or seen a Nokia 5800 in real life but I’ve spent the last couple of days fishing around the internet and even though the 5800 has some minor problems such as processor speed, I think that this does not matter. On a computer, processor speed actually matters but in a phone, who cares? All my phones have been Nokia’s and I never ever had a problem with them.
One thing’s for sure, though, 5800 is the best Nokia by far and is ten times better the the iPhone!!!

This phone is really that good!

But, IMO, it lacks some essential applications, like Isilo. That’s really a shame.

There are two different phone concepts and despite what the stupid 5800 is not a copy of iPhone, it is yet another touch enabled phone.

5800 is cheaper and provides better features than the iPhone (e.g. better camera with high-quality video, copy-paste support, handwriting recognition)

iPhone is expensive even when “subsidised” with a 2 year contract. Its only plus size is the cool touch UI, but you get bored with it in like two minutes.

I was thinking of getting this phone, With the new nokia 5800 can you download app’s?

Like the iphone has? the apps function gives the iphone such a longer life value as you can download and update it with new games and apps.

Ok got the 5800 for my wife today first point you have to pay for your for your music so how does that beat the iphone.So although a good phone make the list 19.

gettin 5800 on tuesday on conract!? will u be able to plug the 5800 into yur pc and put songs from yur pc onto the 5800?

Iphone will never die, all the phones released right now hwo are similar to iphone will always remember us that the real deal is about Iphone.

hi
i jst want to say that 5800 has more features than i phone but i lacks in looks and
iphone has a great advantage of apple store applications

To all those claiming that iPhone has more appz and games … that is so not true … just visit the numerous sites that relate to the Symbian OS and one will see that it is like the “Linux” of mobile phones when it comes to open platform. So many things to install on the 5800 (i have many installed already and they are the kind of things you want to have on a phone since it is what you carry with you everyday) … imagine carrying a phone and a separate usable digital camera and a usable V8 camcorder and a usable GPS navigator out with you everyday … you won’t have the pockets for these … but with the 5800 … all you need to carry is one light-weight device and you can have all that … by the way, even Garmin XT GPS currently works on it, which is the best GPS navigation to have … even though the already-built-in Nokia Maps is kinda cool too … oh and after v20 firmware update … the 5800 is now just as fast as the iPhone when it comes to interface. But, this phone will not stop here … it will keep getting better and better … going and going … like the Energizer bunny …

nokia has launched its very first touch screen phone. perhaps more to come yet, like n97 etc.
i think nokia has learned mistakes from other brand phone makers did and their first try was nokia 5800.which is so far best one to me
Thanks for information.U guys rock………

NJ: Read through the posts and you already have the answer =)

Admin: Thanks for a wonderful post on the 5800. I just got it myself yesterday, and I was so close to getting the iPhone (fortunatly they didn’t have it in store atm). I’ve been fiddling around with it for many hours now and I still don’t want to put it down. And this post just made my excitement “worse”

i wanna buy it

I am planning on buying the phone in a couple of months. Reading your reviews have certainly helped me. thankyou.

i am using the new nokia 5800 and whether you guys believe it or not but it simply rocks! The camera is simply amazing and their is no difference when you are recording a video. . .it acts like a digital camera! HATS OFF TO YOU NOKIA. Thanks!

People keep comparing looks with functions! 500 euro for a phone that looks good but lacks in functions or 320 euro for a complete phone? Make your choice…

@Proxy- 5800′s build quality is rock solid and strongest of all I have seen.

you still have doubts? check the tough tests videos here-
http://www.tube5800.com/crash-test-videos-5800-xm-went-through-hell-survived/

LOL

Comparing 5800 and Iphone, i will prefer on iphone not because i’m an Apple fanatic fans or what. Just based on some valid points and potentials.

ROUND 1) User experience – IPHONE

I think people need to change their perspective on Iphone. Actually thinking that it is a phone, i rather think it is an IPOD that can make phone calls. Does that make u feel better?

For a novice player in mobile phone market, sometimes it is hard to please majority especially creating a new concept in mobile industry rather than just Clone one. It lacks of many functionalities eg. Copy&Paste, MMS, Bluetooth file transfer for now, doesn’t mean it won’t in future (or even now, if u choose to mod it)

However, if u comparing side to side by what it has and what it can do to other phone. The experience is totally nice overall.

For example, the “smooth factor”- dragging stops at where exactly u stop, intervals between apps opening is more acceptabe, responsiveness of the touch screen is better.

Software design is uniform and easy to learn (not like 5800, combining touch, finger-nail and stylus inputs mess up the experience most of the time) Besides, Symbian is still buggy after so many years although it is powerful. (Read some news, some ppl installed Win98 on N95)

Round 2)Size – TIE
I don’t really have any comment on both phones. 5800 is light bcoz it lacks of the scratch resistant glass on the screen, full plastic body. iphone on the other hand, might be solid feeling but making u feel u r holding a solid fragile vase, afraid it will break once it touch the ground when u drop it.

ROUND 3)SW/HW Phone updates – IPHONE
Based on this point, i will pick on Apple products because of their constant products update cycle. Software patches or firmware updates come out frequently. Fix responses are far more better than Nokia phone.

Nokia’s Symbian seems always busy developing new version rather than maintain a nice simple core system that could be upgraded towards perfection. My old E65 so far only received one updates since its release. Might be Nokia’s marketing strategies that cause that, constantly having new phones coming out to market, nobody cares on the old system anyway. Maybe they are improving, yet still need more improvement (eg N95)

Final words -
There are not only iphone and 5800. If need a better camera quality phone, these two both sucks. If music phone, 5800 still could be considered. If like fun and cool, iphone. If business user, u might need a blackberry.

Android seems potential…

hi all,glad to hear all comparison between 5800xm VS iphone
i’d been using 5800xm nearly 2moths overall it’s worth buying with all fantastic features and tech.
video and sound much clearer comparing oldest nokia version with wide screen and quality speakers.
but when comes to image video and capture, i more prefer sony erricsson with cybershot camera,altough nokia camera provided with carl zeis lenses but still no match with my N70 (2.0Mp) when captured image have to keep still,if move only a bit the image will blurr, i dont know either its my phone problem or other lacks of nokia engineering but it sure frustrated me alot.
one more 5800xm cannot support with many games comparing other nokia phones, im still searching over the web for supported games but still hard to find one suite.
but at last its just my opinion, and for those who are planning to buy one..its a good choice coz worth buying when comes to prices.

thx..
p/s:sorry if my grammar bad,coz not very good in english
but at last

Nice job Man.
WD

ok, admin, i was really just about to purchase a iphone when i called my friend to tell him and he asked me if i was crazy. he told me that the 5800tube is just out and that iphone’s “hype” has been tremendously smashed. i was very saddened by this as i just made up my mind to spend all this cash on sumn and then be told not a smart move. so ofcourse being a female and all i whined about the looks (the one i was buying had gold on it, i really love gold pretty phones)and also some of the features i was shown like a gps tracking system these were downloaded by the guy for me, facebook, this neat budget application, a shopping list application, spread sheet ( i didnt actually see this work so not sure if it does and some other cool things, plus it had this cute louis vuitton background in gold which helped me fall desperately for the phone, however i was sent to this site for one reason and that was to convince me that iphone was crap, i admit i share my friends views now but i want to know if nokia has got these cool downloadable gagets and the 5800 aint cute enough why doesnt nokia work on appearance more, the one cute phone well really cute girly phone i saw nokia do was my old 7360, it was also gold, plus why is the 5800 not as slim as the iphone, it looks like a male phone and colors wont do enough to get the cutness im talking about, plus like interm of background downloading or just downloading at all how safe available is that for my 5800. The things that really make me think twice about the my purchase are the fact that the 5800 has 3.2 mp cam i really love taking pictures, video is added tho pic is most impt so cud give or take wit the no video iphone, i love radio phones, i love the file sharing like my inspiron can connect to my phone, i prefer a removale batt since im not in us, please reply.

One important thing that wasn’t mentioned is multitasking. nokia can multitask but iphone can’t do that. checkout google latitude. poor iphone users they have been left out by all smartphone users bec iphone can’t multi task.
Also a lot of softwares in symbian is more cool that iphone and they are free. Check out skyfire which is true browsing experience. Iphone is just plain HTML browsing which is boring……no videos …..no ajax….no java…..which means the websites safari can visit is very LIMITED!!!! add to that posting videos on youtube!!! it’s crippled!useless! just good for games and silly apps like iFart! what a shame.

Some comments, on what the previous poster farybagj has overlooked.

- I don’t want to repeat Mikey [89] but its a major bug: Vertical Scrollbar
- Makes things even worse its used everywhere! Even in the menus!!!
- The phone sometimes completely useless without the stylus.

* i have only taken out the stylus 3 times in total, i have had the 5800 for 2 months now, and i am a heavy user, esp browsing and texting. Keep using it and you would realize you dont actually need the stylus…

- Awful motion sensor which switches sometimes without any good reason.
- You can turn the motion sensor off but for the phone not for individual apps

* there is a 3rd party app, freeware that allows individual apps to be configured with motion-sensor based screen rotation

- The screen switch between landscape and standing mode is very slow

* the new firmware v20 has faster screen rotation from portrait to landscape mode, slightly more accurate too

- Actually every screen change (navigating the menus) is slow

* the new firmware v20 has faster menu navigating. but i have to agree the interface being not “fluid motion” like iphone, the animations are a bit sluggish. (i bet the iphone’s faster processor is a major contributor to fluid-motion)

- After changing to landscape mode the hotkey like menu covers 1/4 of the screen why? (By using icons instead of text it shouldn’t be taking more space)

* yes, i have to agree the buttons are way bigger that what we would like. but sometimes the designer has to think about big fingers. also, nokia’s 3.2 inch screen is smaller compared the iphone’s 3.5 inch.

- Search on the home screen is a joke

* v20 firmware has fixed this, you can switch the individual apps on home/standby screen on and off, including search.

- Galery showing every photo, no folders, no tags no nothing. (8G mem = 16thousand photo!)

* yeah, folders are needed. i agree.

- Photo quality is substandard (discolored grainy)

* the 5800xm has a higher resolution screen on a 3.2inch LCD, and the iphone has lower resolution on bigger LCD. are you sure the the photo itself is grainy ? send it over to an iphone and have a look at it. Oops… i forgot, iphone doesn’t allow receiving files over bluetooth, use email instead.

- Virtual keyboard failed on So many levels.

* you should try typing on an iphone, its no joke either. but the standard keyboard with T9 prediction on the 5800 rocks. i can type as fast as any other nokia phone with buttons. trust me, i text a lot. i would not get a phone that i cant use to text fast.

- First of all confusing.
- on full qwerty Never find special characters.
- The numeric keys shuffled around (zero to the right?!)

- No application specific virtual keyboard setup (like in messenger I always want to use the qwerty)

* this is application specific. the screen is too small to have the keyboard appear together with the app. iphone does it because the screen size is bigger. 5800 could do it, it has higher resolution screen, but then its a small screen so you would not be able to see it clearly.

- Limited character num in writing?! (Yeah this probably app spec. but I couldn’t be able to write a mail in the webbrowser because of this…)

* are you using the real email website or the mobile version ? the full html version of emails like gmail and yahoo allow for really big text box. you must be writing a novel in your email dude…

- If you are unlucky enough to using the full qwerty once the Next time when you need to use keyboard you forced to turn the phone into landsacpe mode. Why?

* obvious the qwerty in portrait would be tiny, unusable

- Accept key in the top left corner? Very hard to reach and confusing as well (as every keyboard has the enter to the right)
- No cancel key

- Not recognising the touch properly. If you press one virtual key then when you release it you might hit something closer to the bottom. It also goes unnoticed as its below your finger (the higher rows should have a higher priority)

* hmmm… i dont face this problem, anyway, you should try the new firmware v20, its much more sensitive. at least nokia doesn’t SELL its new OS versions… see what apple is doing for ipod touch, you gotta buy the OS…

- Contact screen smart search. Utterly confusing. The most prominent key is the green accept key (which is I don’t know how but at the right place on the bottom right) changing position while you are narrowing the search. The next page button almost unnoticabble… (Have you tried to use this search with Fringe while its updating the user list? Terrible…)

* yeah, i agree, they could have done a better job with contact search.

- Battery indicator broken. One minute its fine then its shutting the phone itself done. Sometimes it warns then goes another hour.

* battery indicator loses accuracy when you are using high drain apps like wifi or GPS. even the mighthy iphone is not that accurate when it comes to battery meter. its the technology behind lithium ion batteries. i am not being biases, but try using a LG phone before you complain about battery meters. but nokia has an app for power profiling, you can see the power usage for each app. google it.

- No way to switch profile while on the charger. (Well with exspensive paying application you can). On the charges no vibrating effect. But because of the unreliable battery level indicator its always on the charger so missing calls a lot…

* the lithium ion battery in the 5800 is quite reliable, it lasts too. after about 10 complete charge cycles the battery’s maximum performance is unlocked, the battery charges to its full capability and lasts longer too. new lithium ions are not conditioned yet, they might not perform. anyway, the 5800 uses a removable battery, and its cheap and readily available everywhere, so dont complain.

- In general the buttons (especially the menu entries) are not big enough for finger use

* you can change the font size, hence changing the menu entry size, dude, you must be like 7 feet 2…

- There is always two mandatory menu options: Show all running apps (white middle hard key so why?), and exit which most of the time scrolled out of screen.

- No way to kill an application in the task manager (yet again you can with paying application)

* there is more than 1 freeware that allows managing tasks and many more. google it.

- The hard keys are very hard to press especially after you are used to the typing on the virtual key (Nokia would have been better of to put touch hard keys on the device. Even worse the N97 also comes with these keys…)

* the keys are a bit hard, i have to agree, softer keys or no keys would be better. but sometimes, hardware keys are necessary, even the iphone has one, a softer and nicer one though.

- No built in auto fill forms like word expanding in the virtual qwerty keyborad. (You have to start writing something then go back to the browser if its found any matches if not go back to the virtual keyb…)

- Application install/uninstall is a major pain. Its throwing so many technical /cryptic / warning info into your face then you think twice before you install anything ever again. (If you are a programmer like me you will understand what the messages are all about but I honestly I don’t give a damn. If you are not a programmer you probably don’t have a clue whats going on anyway)
- After install you have to find your App run it just to find out that is broken. (90% of apps are broken becase this new 5th platform so new). Then you have to navigate to the insall manager which deeply hidden. Find your freshly installed app then you finally allowed to uninstall it…

* i think legal applications are easy to install… its the unsigned, illegal ones that are troublesome… anyway, installing an app on a iphone isnt a breeze either… last week one of my friend gave up after trying to set up his new iphone after trying for a couple of hours… even though the iphone’s user interface is intuitive and user friendly, the backend is not. its messy.

- App manager allows two applications by the same name. Which one do you want to uninstall: hard to decide.

* sometimes its just components dude. there may be minor differences. as far as i know, the symbian os will ask whether you want to upgrade/replace the existing app. it will not install 2 copies of the same app

- Phone memory User Folder completely trashed by different random S60 apps. No standart how to store the App user data.

* agree, some apps dont follow the preset app data rules
but it doesnt cause any problems with how the OS runs.

- Duplicate numbers under different user names results that the phone not recognising the incoming calls. (Not even giving a hint whats going on!) Even after you clean up your phonebook the call records are not updating. (With a 100 phonebook – hello business users – its impossible to see if the call was important)

* haha, yeah all nokia does this… its just a phone with a software… what you expect, most nokia freaks would know this issue… its the user who is at fault, not the software / hardware

- If you have a meeting and you missed your alarm the first time you come back pick up your phone turn it on if anything happened in the past 10 minutes but you will see as if nothing happened! (yes it will try to ring you later but inbetween two alarms there is no visual indication whats going on)

* yeah, they should fix that…

- Going back to the last page in the browser is painful.

* its a pain, but there is the multi selection page where u can go back more than one page, even go 5 pages back… its useful sometimes…

I know its not perfect phone, but for a first from nokia in this form factor and new OS, its beats the crap out of many phones in many sections, including the iphone…

But if you ask me, iphone is beautiful thing that works, with lots of eye candy. It gives you that satisfaction, smooth edges, flat surface, curvy, slim…

But if you are a hardcore user, Nokia 5800XM is the way to go.

the nokia 5800 has a FUNKY stick to press buttons with so that you don’t have to dirty the screen.
the iphone is too expensive. too wide. very hard to text with.. i mean could those letter keys BE ANY SMALLER.
whereas with nokia 5800 there are 4 different keypad options.
and it actually fits in your pocket.

AND TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WITH IPHONES, YOU CAN BANG ON ABOUT YOUR STUPID APP STORE AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE, BUT FACE IT: YOUR PHONE DOESN’T HAVE A COOL BUTTON PRESSING STICK!

I just upgraded my phone’s firmware to v 20.0.012 and it works great. Now, the browsing is fast, (well, I still have to find out what other advantages it makes) but what’s best is that I can now capture image and video through the secondary camera!

This is a great post and I hope all gadget junkies here in the Philippines would read this.

I don’t have an iphone so I can’t compare the two but…

Here, some people prefer iphone for its sleekness and the fact that of owning this very expensive mobile phone is a great status symbol. They boast it everywhere – showing that they are “can-afford-people” (hahaha! How bitter I am). But they overlook the functionality of N5800xm. I love using N5800xm for communicating, browsing the net, listening mp3 music or fm station etc.

The truth is I’m planning to buy an iphone though I already had N5800xm because of this “pressure” (now, am I letting myself a victim of this “ethos”). How pathetic.

Hay everyone iv read every one of your comment and you all have different views on this subject.

i have use both the iphone and the 5800, ok iv also had the nokia n96-8gb and i really liekd it but when it came to touch screen i tried them both.
The iphone i found hardto handle it was to big to hold in one hand and didnt alwyas unlock when i wanted it 2 The Iphone has lots of apps but far to many of them and some are plain rubbish like the ones you see on tv. Are people so lazy they cant work out how to split a bill between 4 people ?? or find a taxi ?? i mean come on.

But i did find some of the apps alot of fun to use but as a phone itself it lacks alot of things i need like quick easy uploading of music and other files somehting the 5800 does with ease.

Now for the nokia 5800.
I have the blue version new from nokia and it was amazing, its naturly in my hand i can use it with only my thumb and easy to unlock. Basic setup is like other nokia phones main menu leading to other places which is good and bad in itself.

having a camera of 3.2 was ok but the n95-8gb had 5 mp so i was dissapointed their The reaction of the touchscreen was really good it didint load until i took my finger of the screen making it nearly impossable to accidently select somthing i didnt want.
picute.video quality is outstanding even plays flv files two

Ok so i didnt say much about the iphone compared to the 5800 and their is a good reaosn for that……the iphone sucks, ok it has lots of fun apps but lacks even the basics every other mobile has even if you dont need or use them its godo to have just incase.

for practicle use the 5800 is a must have for anyone with shortcuts to contacts and other features, not many apps but the ones they have for waht you need

Iphone is good easy to answer calls and has great movment sensor but to many apps that kids would use more than an adult and it would be really embaressing looking at your phone to find a taxi or work out a simple sum.

Nokia is not a iphone killer becuase its not ment for little kids Nokia is on a different level to Apple, they need to stop thinking computers and more mobiles for the adverage guy which they failed here sorry iphone lovers its fun but not a true mobiel phone.

sorry for my crap spelling lol

GREAT REVIEW
learned a lot! thanks

the iphone is shit period i had both iphone 2g and 3g. iphone was 1st released when 3g was already out on the market for most cellphone makers.then they rip people off by releasing a 3g compatible iphone with slight changes. stuck with att unless you get it unlock and even then you cant use apps store without jailbreaking. at 1st it seems like a nice phone till you really need power on the go, the iphone lacks aot of things, for example you will never get the same apps or even close to what you would get on a nokia high end phone. people who love apple will jump off a bridge for them lollll. you people are sick. open your eye’s there have always been phone with the same features as iphone. its just a company like apple who make computer released a phone that runs mac os but will never function the same as a mac when you think about it. the games on the phone suck,everything for apple cost to much for what it is. nice screen, pretty icons. wow. crapy camera with no flash, no flash support for the web, no stereo bluetooth. i should say no bluetooth anything. i can name a million issue’s. people who have the iphone don’t even use it for nothing more than email,web,music, lets be serious here. iphone is not in the same league as nokia, should not even be pictured beside it. loll and im serious. i now only use nokia and htc phones will never touch an apple phone ever again. the apple phone should be for females only not for a real man or power user.

i’m not picking hairs or anything like that, i have the Iphone, and i love it, just because i think it’s beautiful, it’s got some serious flaws in design, and it’s mainly the camera issues that annoy me the most.
haven’t seen this new fandangled nokia, so can’t compare, but on a general basis, nokias annoy me anyway, with layout and what not.

buuut, just thought i’d point out, you can send SMS’s to multiple contacts on the iphone
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In my opinion nokia is superior than the iphone. I had an iphone before. I was excited bec it looks good, cute icons etc. After 3 months of using it I got frustrated. I have to charge the battery very often and the fact that the battery is not removable made me mad at apple. I surfed the net and I can’t watch cnn videos so I got frustrated again. I was excited to check out the app store to see some cool apps. I found dice app… no purpose just roll the dice then what? iFart ?? what a joke. there are tons of useless apps like these in the app store. I looked for cool apps like navigation app, nothing, a better browser app, nothing, modem tethering app, nope. I learned apple doesn’t want these in the app store so I got mad at apple even more. Then I learned it couldn’t multitask because I have to exit the app before opening another. Then I said what a piece of junk is this thing. if I just want to listen to music or play videos why do I need this expensive phone. It’s useless to me. Then I found nokia, I can surf the net via skyfire just like the desktop, I use it as a modem to my notebook, GPS, all iphone can do and a lot more with multitasking! So if you like the iphone then you are not a gadget person…you are so shallow in technology….

yes. i don’t have’it but i will have nokia 5800. I MOST HAVE IT.

I bought 5800 2 days ago and do not have time read any instrution yet. I have to handover the apartment to some client, so we are checking if the wireless was working. I had no idea how to do it on my phone at that time. It took me 1 minute to log on to the internet but the client who has IPHONE for a long time could not figure out at all how to do it on his IPHONE.

Many People just buy iphone because it is like a new trend now especially in Thailand but do not really know how to use it.

Thanks for sharing all the info about both phones.

I have quite odd reason why I checked out this site out yesterday. My workmate, couple of floors up, bought a 5800 in November, and being a real Nokia freak he was showing it to everybody. After all these months I thought I should replace my aging N95 with 5800 too.

So yesterday afternoon I called him, but got only his assistant, told her I’d really want to try out his 5800 and see what he has on it, and she says:”No, he has been iPhone user for 4 months already, that iPod Touch you might have seen him using is actually an iPhone, haven’t you noticed”.

Damn, somebody must have paid him off to switch, nah, he needs to keep his face more than money. So finally I got to talk to him this morning and hear his expected poor excuses: “Well, 5800 is a good phone, every engineer will find the specs awesome, but in reality it’s still a first generation touch phone from Nokia, and it just didn’t measure up against the iPhone in usability and software quality”.

My next question was, who was the idiot that gave him his iPhone as a Christmas present:”Oh, nobody. Our company’s bought several of these for testing, and they will start getting them for the management and sales people in May. It turns out iPhone is really good business phone. Our main concern was the special multiple languages requirement in our custom apps, but it will be taken care of. Also the screen could be bigger, but the pinch/tap zoom seems to compensate it well enough”.

There goes my 5800, I used it only once for 2 minutes (in November), found it to be slick and nicely built, maybe a bit slow, touch screen could have been better, but I thought it was good enough for my use.

I’ll be waiting the next 5800 model (unless company gives me iPhone), after all, wasn’t it one of the Nokia bosses that said: “This is not our iPhone killer, just the first touch phone to check how the market responds”.

I’m using the 5800xm for 3 months now, and have upgraded the firmware. The speed has increased and I’m totally loving my tube!

What I bothers me (a little) is the lack of games to support the touchscreen UI and I would prefer the screen to be a tad wider than 3.2″. and also, I do hate the “confirm” button to be too high up when typing smthg.

But like oh! oh!, I still have plans to get my first iPhone soon, not because of the peer pressure etc but because of the attractive data plan that came bundled with the only telco selling iPhone in my country. I will wait until they unveil the new iphone at the WWDC in June, or listen to feedback on their new OS first, just to be safe.

For those who are torn between buying an iPhone or the tube, I would say, buy an iphone for its aesthetics and “status symbol” but get the 5800xm for its functions at a wayyyy cheaper price tag.

Hi Guys,

Nice job admin great blog… for me it was love at first site for the 5800 and the more I use it the more I love it. I don’t know if you guys have read the news of Picsel technologies suing the apple iphone for “stealing” their patent technology of data rendering. If apple looses the lawsuit, the iphone for sure will loose its “fluidy” UI.

see: http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/32625/Picsel-to-sue-Apple

Yassef #17 says iphone is better because a lot of next version coming can make it better so it’s better right now. What kind of justification is that? Maybe at that time when your iphone will be better all other phones will be a lot better also. That’s a true statement isn’t it? I owned an iphone before a lot of stuff you mentioned can only be believed by an iphone lover like you.

Hi gyus!

Just need to say that although a HUGE iphone enthusiast (I had set eyes on it since the pre-sale release of the introductory video by SJ – which I watched with wide open eyes and literally drooling…), I was held back by whispers and screams about poor battery performance, lock-ups and crashes and of course the non-replaceable battery and the locked option…
To make matters worse, a workmate showed up one day with an ipod touch, which made my need to get it even stronger…
Anyway, something at the back of my head kept stopping me from getting an iphone and then I saw it…
On a trip abroad, I set my hands on the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic and although impressed, I thought of it as another iphone lookalike.
Being a Nokia user (used a 6230i for ages) but also an SX1 user (remember those?) I wished that Nokia would provide better contacts and file management (SX1 was a symbian smartphone), a better camera, , a better browser, wifi, more applications…
Finally, the day came when, about 2 weeks ago I finaly bought the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Red. I actually went for the blue, but when I put my SIM in, it just wouldn’t start properly, kept flashing and popped a message in German about taking it for service! Truly disappointed, I had it exchanged for a red (which I found slightly better-looking) which started up perfectly.
Very very pleased with all features I have used/checked so far, a bit turned-down by the camera performance in the dark and also picture colors but hey! can’t have EVERYTHING, right?
Verdict: I like the iphone but I’m glad I got the Nokia 5800.
What I like the most? handwriting recognition. Works almost flawlessly both in English and in Greek and I tend to use it a lot instead of texting SMSs.

Thanks for letting me share this with U and keep up the good work!

“6. Features, a lot more than in 5800, and more coming with 3.0 software update in June 2009 or before. Over 10000 apps specialized custom apps. Even more features coming with 3.0 when the dock connector will be opened to 3rd party developers.”
-please… the biggest things in 3.0 are already standard on many 3g phones… ie ‘cut & paste’, ’3g tethering’, ‘a2dp’, ‘mms’. It took apple 2 years to realise these features are important to consumers… that is pathetic.

“7. Hundreds of colors available through cases, covers, stick-on’s, tons of other accessories.”
-cases and stuff can be bought for any phone in the market today in any colour shape or form. its nothing special… besides the iphone doesnt even have a loophole to tie on mobile accessories…

“10,11. Video recording with jailbrake iPhone, wait for 3.0 update”
-jailbreaking ur phone is illegal (stated by apple as well). again with 3.0 ey? well hello to pretty much every phone with a camera except the iphone(currently), video recording is already here and has been for many years… plus, you cant video conference with the iphone… every 3g phone ever released has video conferencing capabilities…

“13,14 iPhone has Voice recording, voice and picture dialing apps for free or heart breaking 0.99 cents.”
-again this comes standard with heaps of phones… why pay for such standard features…

“20. Nokia has questionable reputation for writing operating system / SDK software”
-nokia doesnt make their os’s, nokia uses Symbian OS.

dood, you have to stop refering to 3.0… everything ‘feature’ on the 3.0 is already here on every mid to high-end mobile phone. even with 3.0, the iphone is still lacking…

“Nokia 5800 is not a “iPhone killer” wait for their next model, and hope the best. Never underestimate what Nokia can come up with.
”
-its deemed iphone killer because of its xpressmusic label… and its features are nearly the same (ie touch screen, wifi, etc… btw nokia 5800 does have multi touch, dispite its resistive screen, heaps of videos on youtube…).

anyway apple has made a nice feature packed phone that actually works pretty much perfectly. since that side has been ironed out very well, they need to concentrate on the phones spec’s. Just have your fingers crossed that the next iphone released wont be a generation behind the rest… (ie the camera, bluetooth, etc)

ALL I CAN SAY IS NOKIA 5800 CAN MULTITASK IPHONE CAN’T. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME. FOR EXAMPLE I’M CHATTING WITH SOMEBODY USING PALRINGO AND I CAN LISTEN TO LASTFM AT SAME TIME WHILE I CHECK MY EMAIL ALSO WHILE PALRINGO BEEPS IN THE BACKGROUND TO TELL ME THERE’S A MESSAGE. AND I DOWNLOAD PODCAST AT THE SAME TIME. ISN’T THAT HIGH TECH!!! IPHONE CAN’T DO THIS!!!!!! YOU HAVE TO CLOSE AN APP FIRST BECAUSE OPENING ANOTHER. IPHONE SUCKS!!!! THE SIGNAL IS BAD IN THE LOWER BASEMENT WHILE NOKIA IS STILL FULL BARS.

1) Size
But iphone is thinner!

2) Weight
Oh wow! Be serious: Do you feel a difference of 25g?? You wont…

3) Screen Resolution
Ok this point goes to you

4) Storage
Whats the difference if you buy a memory card(slow) or a 8g iphone?
then the nokia costs even more!

5) Input Methods
Jailbreak hello!

6) Features
You can add these features on a jailbroken iphone!
Appstore and Cydia are without rivalry!
how do you install apps?

7) Colors
Wow one more color!

8 ) Battery
a real flaw of the iphone

9) Camera
iphone photos are really nice to look at! if you want good photos: buy a digital camera!
you cannot expect a handy being a good camera!!!!

10) Video Calling
icall??

11) Video Recording
cycorder???

12) Music Service
who uses this nokia music service?
i can imagine this free songs…
lots of garage bands from uganda?
btw: ipod is superior!

13) Voice Dialing
iphonevoicedial???

14) Voice Recording
iphone voice recorder???

15) Web Browser
Safari works really nice with gestures on multitab display!
but flash is missing…

16) FM Radio
who the fuck needs this???????????? Be honest…

17) Bluetooth
ibluetooth???

18) Messaging
take a look at bitesms which brings a lots of features
and send sms for about 6euro cents! and you?

19) Price
hm thats right…

20) Experience
REALLY good handys made by nokia (/irony)
nice done by stealing 60mio euro and leaving 3000 unemployed people!
look at http://www.kacke.de

Lets wait for iphone firmware 3.0!!
I accept nokia 5800 as alternative but this report is VERY partial!
i hate those people who hate EVERYTHING which is used by a lot of people..
Ok i admit that a iphone without jailbreak is not really good but
if you jailbreak and unlock it it’s a really fine thing!!

sorry for bad english!

Response to Nighty

1) Size
But iphone is thinner!

response: But wider you can’t use in just 1 hand. nokia 5800 you can.

2) Weight
Oh wow! Be serious: Do you feel a difference of 25g?? You wont…
response: yes when you’re holding the phone in your ear a long time it makes a difference.

3) Screen Resolution
Ok this point goes to you

4) Storage
Whats the difference if you buy a memory card(slow) or a 8g iphone?
then the nokia costs even more!

response: point is you don’t have to buy but least you have an option.

5) Input Methods
Jailbreak hello!

response: not a big deal but at least it’s nice to have.

6) Features
You can add these features on a jailbroken iphone!
Appstore and Cydia are without rivalry!
how do you install apps?

response: download and install! no need to jailbreak.

7) Colors
Wow one more color!

response: o yeah iphone 2 colors not a big deal…

8 ) Battery
a real flaw of the iphone

response: you got it right!

9) Camera
iphone photos are really nice to look at! if you want good photos: buy a digital camera!
you cannot expect a handy being a good camera!!!!

response: it’s good to have a better camera on your phone. you are ignorant about this…

10) Video Calling
icall??

11) Video Recording
cycorder???

response: nokia is better on videos 30 frames per second…

12) Music Service
who uses this nokia music service?
i can imagine this free songs…
lots of garage bands from uganda?
btw: ipod is superior!

response: no ipod is inferior because of the battery…..get out of the apple world for once so you’re not ignorant anymore.

13) Voice Dialing
iphonevoicedial???

14) Voice Recording
iphone voice recorder???

15) Web Browser
Safari works really nice with gestures on multitab display!
but flash is missing…

16) FM Radio
who the fuck needs this???????????? Be honest…
response: a lot of people does. bec you don’t have it that’s why.

17) Bluetooth
ibluetooth???

18) Messaging
take a look at bitesms which brings a lots of features
and send sms for about 6euro cents! and you?

19) Price
hm thats right…

20) Experience
REALLY good handys made by nokia (/irony)
nice done by stealing 60mio euro and leaving 3000 unemployed people!
look at http://www.kacke.de

Lets wait for iphone firmware 3.0!!
I accept nokia 5800 as alternative but this report is VERY partial!
i hate those people who hate EVERYTHING which is used by a lot of people..
Ok i admit that a iphone without jailbreak is not really good but
if you jailbreak and unlock it it’s a really fine thing!!

sorry for bad english!

AND THE BIGGEST THING………..

IPHONE CAN’T MULTITASK WHICH IS A BIG BO BOO BOO

NOKIA 5800 CAN MULTITASK. This iphone fanboy is ignorant about multitasking…. a typical..fboy

I’d just like to say “thanks” to all the people contributing to this thread, and to ‘Admin’ for the initial list of differences. I’m about to change from Sony-Ericsson, and fancy a touch-screen. I’d been considering the iPhone (mainly due to hype), but would need to switch providers to O2 (I live in UK). Having stumbled on a deal for the 5800 – I’m very much swayed.

1. I can negotiate a deal with current provider.
2. The 5800 will be FREE on my contract (iPhone is not).
3. If I decide to switch provider in 12 months (yes 12! – whereas iPhone is minimum 18 month) – I can unlock the 5800 to any network without it being locked down by ‘big brother’.

I have been almost a month since I have my Nokia 5800 up to now I can say it better than LG viewty which is relay a disaster and it have so many thing that so many mobile don’t have not even Sony mobiles or IPhone.

Obviously, you guys didn’t try the iphone, or nokia in question!
there is no comparison, Iphone is elegant and totally awesome,
nokia is left in the middle ages with it’s symbian, it’s just not cool enough or fast enough, I am not talking about a single model, not to mention that the touch screen in the 5800 is way “less sensitive” than the iphone,
iphone makes you feel smart, if you can’t afford it, there’s no need to be nasty, just say it’s awesome, but my budget allows me a 5800:)

Cheers everyone:)
Sandra

Nokia is in market since some years back n is still doin gr8…but iPohne its jus been some time…n u can only c wat it has left behind..roars of appreciation….but Nokia rulz. I recently, bought TUBE…n believe me dudes its awesome stuff packed with helluva app which one can rely on…I ain’t no comparing both of ‘em…but was hell under to do so…so here’s da deal…

iPhone= no video calling (man in dis generation)
If u run out of memory dan u gotta buy another iPhone…(sucks, i ain’t got no money). Wat! no forwarding messages….speed of processor hardly matters folk…Now in this new era of more developments wat da heck 2 MP of camera is doin in wat they called iPhone (this generation phone)…so the verdict is iPhone goes down under…..it sinks n sucks as well….amen.

What I am really looking forward to is Nokia 5800 coming with built-in Skype.

In India, almost all phones are sold unbundled with operator — you can move to any operator while keeping your phone (and all that tons of your data). It is only Apple that has gone and tied up with operators and is selling their iPhones locked with operator network. Here the locked iPhones are selling for $700! There is a difference in the intentions of the two companies — Apple wants to gang up with operators to exploit the users and Nokia intends to build an open, tether free ecosystem. Ultimately, when you want to make friends with someone, what counts is their intentions.

“Yes the features on the Nokia 5800 are obviously advanced as it was recently released. Think about how long ago the iPhone was released!”

Well. IPhone 3G’s features are also very limited when compared to eg. Nokia N95 which was released in 2007. Actually iPhone’s features are very limited when compared to almost any Nokia phone released during last 10 years.

Thanks for sharing all the info guys…. still love my Nokia

I bought the Nokia 5800 because the IPhone is too pricey on Contract. If it was £15 a month then I would get one but the Nokia is perfect for the bank account

I upgraded to ver 20.xx firmware and Nokia 5800 hangs left right center. Am really annoyed and frustrated with the substandard quality of high end phones from Nokia.

i have the 5800 for the fact it costs less and is a very good phone with lots of features ,but i have to say the iphone is the best phone you can get even though it misses some basic functions.

man..!!
this was the coolest post i read about 5800 on the net..may b i can find more about it on net but there is no sign of such posts about iphone..
i hav a 5800 and i realy like it..i think it is much better than dat fu**in iphone..
nokia 5800 has a much better and faster processor than the iphone..
the new n97 is far more better than dat iphone..
i hav compared the two phones with my eyes..5800 has much advanced sensors..we can even update the software..n i dun think it is possible for i phone..
there is no reason for ne1 to say iphone is much better than 5800..
it is really n iphone killer..
if ne1 has..m w8in for the post..
n no1 noes hw many more such smartfones will nokia release wich will b capable of beating even the latest iphones at the time..

hi guys! im a 5800 user. this is the best phone ive ever had!! really!!! i love it’s features and everything!! i can say that it is WAY BETTER than the iPhone.. thanks NOKIA!!

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the appeal of the iPhone. I’ve used one – and frankly I was unimpressed. Yes, it was easy to use – but in a dumbed down, over simplified manner that is familiar to anyone who has used Apple’s products. I kept trying to find where the real option settings were, and then realized to my horror there weren’t any.
The phone was horribly locked down, between being forced to go with AT&T and being forced to either jailbreak the phone or bow to Apple’s every wish.
In actual practice I just found the iPhone a pain to use. I feel like the only person on earth who hates the oversimplied UI because it lacks functionality of other smart phones.

i bought it a month everyoneone said ill get bored in a week or so but
i still use it 5hrs a day awesome for music

you know what, there is such thing as iPhone killer! and the nokia 5800 really bares it all!! iphone dont support video editing and capture!! my God, what kind of a smartphone is that?? no cut and paste thing!! but when it comes interface and quick touch response, nothing beats iphone, however whats the purpose of looks when you dont have any basic features?? or i may say important features!

to apple company, stick only to media players like ipod! nokia rules!

but iphone will release a next generation of iphone, they call it iphone 3g S, wherein you can now capture videos and edit them direct to your phone,

and wait till n97 comes out in the market, im sure apple iphone will be killed in the telecom industry!

Nokia Rocks!!! iPhone shits!!!!!!

i just got my 5800 couple days ago… but ive been a nokian for over a decade. can someone PLEASE tell me where i can find an “anti-iphone” website? or iphone hate website? or even APPLE hate website?

smartphone wise i had 7650, 3650, 6670, 3250, N80, N81 and now the 5800… i cant say that the 5800 the best of Nokia cuz they are all “the best” in their own times.

dude, i do not want to list the 5800′s features which is fully unrestricted because id would be the 10000th person to do that. but… please iphone… die die die die die die!

Hi everyone! I bought my Nokia 5800 two weeks ago! Well, what can I say? I really love it especially the WiFi capability feature. It let’s me connect to the internet whenever I;m in a hot spot! Plus, I enjoy using its 3G feature ~ Video calling. I really like it very much! For all the Nokia 5800 user out there: our phone rockz!!! And will keep rockin’… Keep safe everyone! (^_^)

HERE IN BRASIL THE 16GB VERSION COST R$2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have 5800 and it is better than i phone in every thing but iam asking why price is less than i phone ?
its ok its the best thing………………

It need the Nokia 58000 20 more years of innovation to come closer to the iphone. All what has been written above is rubbish; see both phones and you will immediately see the difference; the Nokia 58000 is a toyota corolla and the iphone is BMW M5.

5800 As Iphone killer =why
Cause 5800 have many superb features was install by NOKIA
WITH (Main Features Which Iphone Don’t have it…)
=3.2 MP camera with Carl Zeiss Optics
=High quality iimages resolutions
=Unlimited music downloads{Nokia Comes With Music(Music Store)}
=Wi-fi,Quick Internet access 3.5G & HSDPA connection
=Superb Sound (83 cc)
=Higth Expandable Memory (Up to16 GB)
=Long duration battery (Stand By = Up to 400 hours(Removeable ———-Battery)

I have iPhone and my friend has 5800, so I tried it for a while…touch screen of iPhone is way, way better than that on 5800. Smaller screen on 5800 makes it hard to use. You need to press the screen much harder than you need to do on the iPhone. iPhone is much better pocket computer than mobile phone, but 5800 is much better mobile phone than a computer. With an update on software 3.0 on iPhone I can use MMS, cut & paste, save files etc. iPhone 3G[S] destroys any Nokia. But if you look at the price tag, Nokia is a better choice. I don’t use camera at all. I have also installed QuickOffice so it has the support for .pdf, .ppt etc. Plus I installed Appolous, so I don’t pay for any application. It is far better than 5800.

I have a 5800, it’s absolutely hands down the best phone i’ve ever had. I actually had an iphone, and i was getting sick of it not being able to connect in my area. I finally switched, and I could connect (almost) everywhere! the 5800 is a really awesome phone

My friend got the i phone for her 14th birthday, she loved it. i completely disagreed. On our way to school she wanted to show me her new app, when she pulled it out of her bag the menu button had fallen off and the screen would not turn on.
My point here is that they are not as strong as the 5800 and and are prone to brake! I have experience with apple software and the only thing that i have bought and not taken back to the shop is my laptop. My i pod has broken more than 17 times now!

I am lucky enough to own both the iPhone 3g and the 5800. I have been reading this on the 5800 while my girlfriend is lying beside me watching YouTube videos on the iPhone. We are both connected to the same router yet the 5800 has disconnected no less than 6 times, while the iPhone has remained connected throughout. Admittey we are at the opposite end of the house to the router, but by comparison the iPhone is shining here. Also, every single time it disconnected, the 5800 exits the browser even though the page is fully loaded, very very annoying. In the end I had to mail a link for the page to my iPhone and Im now using that to write this comment. Also the way you have to tap the nokias screen so hard is hard work compared to the iPhones graceful touch interface. Overall there aare some significant features missing from the iPhone but if I was forced to choose right now which one to keep I would be walking away with an iPhone in my pocket. It is a quality piece of stable and user friendly hardware and what it lacks in features it makes up for in style. Flash vidoe would be nice, but from what Ive seen on the 5800 it only supports flash lite, and so even YouTube videos get choppy and out of sync most of the time.

the nokia is way better than the iphone, i am not just saying that because i have a nokia 5800, the onli 1 factor that the nokia lacks which the iphone has is that it us completely waterproof , where the nokia is partly waterproof (can get party wet by rain ect ) the iphone (which i have seen first hand) can be dunked into a cup of water and still work .

Thanks. i found this interesting. I am switching over to Nokia 5800

Well, your right with all the above mentioned features… I tested the iphone with my friend and the 5800 with my classmate… The two phones are good but yeah the 5800 is more noticeable than the iphone… Y? Because you know its like the first touchscreen ever from nokia even though they alrady have a 7700 but was not released. And the Iphone these days is like a common thing now unlike the 5800 it gives new taste(literally speaking not taste as in food taste)to people. I would soon be having my 5800 cause i really forced my parents to buy it for me… I’ve been very excited with this phone that’s why i already downloaded some files… Your blogs are so helpful to me…. It makes me so informative about 5800… Thank you for doing this blog… And well i’ll just insert one of my request…

PLEASE MAKE THE MYPHONE FREE OR LIKE WE’RE JUST GOING TO DOWNLOAD IT LIKE OTHER APPS WITHOUT PAYING CAUSE I’M STILL A STUDENT AND I DON’T HAVE CREDIT CARD YET AND I WANT THE MYPHONE APP SO BADLY… SO PLEASE!!!! Thank you!!!

These are the reasons why I prefer nokia 5800 over the iphone. I have used both phones first the iphone and now I’m using the nokia 5800. 1. Battery life in nokia 5800 is the best. I charge it in the morning and it’s stays on up to the next day of normal use. The iphone battery sucks. Charge it in the morning and by the end of the afternoon battery is gone and this is normal use. You have to plug into a power source all the time which is unacceptable for a phone. 2. Signal on the nokia 5800 is a lot better than the iphone. I can be reached anywhere but the iphone on certain areas are deadspots. 3. Multitasking on the nokia 5800 is possible so I listen to internet radio,surf,tweet, chat and check email and sms all at the same time. This is not possible on the iphone. 4. Adobe flash full version will be coming to nokia phones including the 5800 at the end of this year. Iphone will not be supported by adobe because there’s a rift between apple and adobe. 5. Firmware updates has made the nokia 5800 better than before everything is fast now and responsive. 6. I don’t need a computer to use nokia 5800.I can do everything my pc can do while I’m away. I can even browse my files in my computer via ovi. 7. The stereo speakers on the nokia 5800 is superb! iphone has mono and small speaker. 8. The back of the iphone is so slippery that you need a case. Nokia 5800 the plastic is not slippery and I don’t need a case. 8. I can be located by my friends via google latitude. Iphone can’t do this bec it doesn’t multitask. 9. my nokia 5800 can be a turn by turn gps gadget while driving. iphone can’t do this.

Hello Admin and evrybody,

Congrats for this great blog! I order my 5800 yesterday (before reading this blog) eventhough I didnt receive it yet (postman is late), I am already having fun because of it, thanks to your blog!

As a a Brazilian living in Holland my point of view is solid:
THERE IS NO COMPARISON between the Nokia 5800 and the iPphone simply
because in Brazil as well in Holland, the iPhone is at least TWICE more expensive than the 5800!
Why pay such high amounts for a PHONE even a Smartphone, that is far from perfect? Because it’s fun(multitouch stuff)? Because it’s “hip”? Are we all brainless teenagers following trends?
Even if you are a rich person, why not give value to your money?

Can any other smartphone on the market beat the 5800 what the relation price/quality concerns? By the way sorry for the mistakes but english is not my first language.

Anyway in my opinion one very important feature of a smartphone is its wifi capabilities; that’s because I find it great when you can place cheap voip calls from and to everywhere in the world when you find a hotspot or a available wireless network.
In this field ( WIFI) is the 5800 better than average? And what this blog concerns, better wifi than iPhone? Just curious…

Once again congratulation for this blog,
Cheers,
Beto

P.s.- I dont think Andy ( post 7) should apologize to James; he didnt curse James personnaly, he cursed the iPhone and sometimes some cursing words make a point of view crystal c-l-e-a-r… and Andy nailed it! Very passionate post, lol, lot’s of fun…..

I agree without you in every point.The iphone is really a good piece of hardware but its Apple which doesnt want it to be as good as it can be.They really have locked the phone in every sense probably for their own monetary benefits.The only plus point I see in iphone is the amazing touch response which is simply awesome.The nokia 5800 is not as responsive as iphone and iphone is and can become a really good mobile gaming platform.

Just got my 5800 3 days ago and it’s exactly what i expected or hoped for:
Nice sound (for calls and music) and the wifi works great; I installed the fring application and i know I make voip and skype calls with great sound/connection quality! Great video capabilities as well..

It’s just a pitty that the GPS sucks big time! The gps chipset is weak and dependable on the A-gps wich costs money and I wont use.
If Nokia doesnt want to put a decent gps receiver such as a sirfstarIII so perhaps they can make a even cheaper 5800 without gps

Anyway the Nokia 5800 is still the greatest in value for money, among
all the smartphones, specially the iPhone wich one is abusevely expensive…..
By the way, if somebody have some pointers in how to get the gps working better( on the 5800), without using a-gps, please post…thanks

@zumbaio – you can try to register your phone and your name to this site: https://store.ovi.com/login. It’s exclusively for Nokia Phone users. They offer a tons of free applications and games. (^_^)

nokia5800 is rocks on the other hand apple is dam shits cell

I probably would not get a 5800 because I’ve not heard good things about the touch screen interface. In that way, the iphone wins hands down. However, I must say this was a great review.

I currently have an ipod touch 2nd generation which I absolutely love but as far as a phone goes, I really wouldn’t consider a touch screen without an actual keypad as I am heavy on texting/emailing. I’m really looking forward to buying the Nokia e72 in a few months. I think an ipod touch/e72 is an amazing combo.

Great article again.

A very useful blog – thanks admin!

I realise that this is a Nokia 5800 v iphone blog, but (especially to dlL in post #179) – take a look at the Sony Ericsson Satio which is coming out VERY soon – it compares very favourably and in many ways is better than the Nokia 5800

Personally, I think the iPhone fals down on a number of comparisons that are important to me:
1. The Symbian OS is open source. It’s amazing that so many people who are anti-Microsoft are so happy to give Apple their money.The only reason Apple isn’t worse than Microsoft (in terms of their restrictive business practices) is because they’re smaller.
2. Cost. Apple’s always been overpriced. Here in South Africa, I’ve got a 5800 on contract that’s a quarter of the price of an iPhone. That’s a lot of money.
3. Stereo Bluetooth. It’s equally amazing that Apple – a leader in portable music devices – doesn’t have this. Coupled with my Gear4 stereo BT headphones, the 5800 is perfect for the gym and outdoor activities.
4. Size. The 5800 is more compact. I want to keep it in my pocket and I’m not interested in a protective case.
5. Track record: I’ve been using Nokias for over 10 years and I’ve never had one go wrong or break.
6. GPS. I’ve got Garmin Mobile XT installed on my Nokia 5800. You can’t do that with an iPhone. And if the 5800 is lost or stolen, I have other software installed that will invisibly enable me to track the phone by GPS.

i cant wait for the future if this nokia – apple battle continues..soon we will have our ‘mobile devices’ making phone calls for us….anyway i am a great fan of 5800, iphone just to expensive … nokia is better value..

hi
interesting discussion guys. I had iphone 3g and now i have nokia 5800. My personal experience with nokia has been better so far. First of all i never liked the lack of camera settings in iphone. So many ways to type a message is so interesting in nokia 5800. Speaker sound and volume is better. The only thing i miss in iphone is the dashing look it had. No doubt iphone is smarter than 5800. But 5800 is not ugly either. Plus 5800 has so much more to offer. Its cheap too. Auto rotation needs a little boost. Its not as smooth as it should be. But thats tolerateabled. Its not that bad. Nokia 5800 for me unless apple comes with something new.

I loved this article, it’s a great piece of information. And points are taken in a very justified way. I guess at the time of this article written, iPhone 3G S hasn’t considered, which nullifies few points. Few are still valid and 5800 is better than iPhone on those.
I own three touch screen phone, Nokia 5800, Samsung Star 3G and iPhone 3G S. To my satisfaction iPhone is the best. If I consider price vs. feature then 5800 beats iPhone, but I focus more on useful features than price. I agree iPhone 3G had a really set back with many points raised here like lack of copy-paste, *most important* SMS forwarding and many points didn’t even mentioned here. But with iPhone 3G S and OS 3 Apple filled up many gaps, though many are to be filled.
I don’t like to take something biased. I love my mac a lot still I use PC, and I always agree that mac is a failure when it comes to gaming. I think millions of buyers bought iPhone just because it’s ease of use. In many way iPhone give user experience better than other phones. The screen aspect ratio of iPhone comes handy many times, but when it’s to watch video of 16:9, 5800 way better than iPhone.
I don’t think 5800 is a iPhone killer. 5800 has it’s own identity. people don’t buy 5800 because they can’t afford iPhone or they want an iPhone alternative or something better than iPhone, they buy because they want a good phone. iPhone could be a trend setter but not a standard.
My personal experience is a lot better with iPhone than any other mobile I’ve used so far. but you’ll find thousands of users who experienced just opposite of me. choice and test can’t be generic. BTW, Apple app store has tons of free apps for which you don’t have to spend a cent!

I would have to say using the 5800XM is a complete new world for me. I have had it for going on 7 months and to this day i can’t fault any of the features. Fair enough all phones will have flawes but the new firmware is released before i have time to find them! Tha camera is fabolous, i find multitasking very useful, time and time again the GoogleMaps tool has come in great use for me, the accelorometer makes the games on the phone a lot more interesting, and with it even having the capabilities to have multi-touch screen, can i really sit here and complain about the features…? I think not. I feel Nokia have done an excellant job on this phone, and one i am highly grateful for.

PS. could someone point me in the direction of some new fun applications..? i’ve got quite a few as it is but the more the merrier admin..? anyone please..?

Hi guys,
well, i’ve used both phones, but the one is Nokia 5800.

Hi everyone,

Don’t forget s60v5. (or can I say OpenSymbian?)

A lot of the information given at the start about the iphone is now outdated,it has moved on.my other half has the nokia 5800 which he has found awkward to manage,my sister on the other hand a huge nokia fan adores it,but agrees it comes nowhwere near the iphone.i have just recently got an iphone,yes we have go to itunes,paid service but lots of free of downloads,podcasts,apps etc and every time we sync upgraded software,how does nokia compare? iphone for me all the way,but it is all a personal choice

Hands down, Nokia 5800 XM is way much better than the Apple iPhone. Currently, there are so many applications available for the Tube. This is one powerful device.

Compared to the Iphone crash test(http://www.tube5800.com/20-reasons-why-nokia-5800-is-better-than-apple-iphone/#more-52), Nokia 5800 really Rock !!.

i used to have a iphone… then firmware 3.1 one came out and screwd me over then i got a nokia 5800 the best phone ive ever had it has so many features that im still discovering there isnt realy anything the iphone has this dosent in some formits actuly pretty amazing my only real delima is acces to cases and screen protectors…

The Nokia is so cool I traded my girlfriend’s dog for it! Shhht don’t tell her, she thinks it ran away ^_^

I have both a nokia 5800 and a 3rd gen 64Gb ipod touch (ok, just an iphone without the phone but its the same otherwise).

I bought the Ipod Touch on a impulse. It felt so… smooth and pretty… Hmm. I felt like Apple had bought me too many drinks in a bar and I woke up next morning in a bed I didn’t recognise. I am a whore for pretty technology..

Anyway, after a week or so of using the Ipod Touch, it’s clear, for heavy lifting and actual ‘real’ computing work, the 5800 is a hands-down winner. The iphone is not even close. The touch/iphone is a toy – albeit a very very nice one.

For sure the touch-screen experience and superb interface on the touch is far far superior to the 5800. But, and it’s an HUGE but, the ipod touch (iphone) is crippled in ways which make it nothing more than a very (very) sweet toy. The tragedy is that this crippling is intentional.

For example, what would normally be a dealbreaker is the inability to use even an *Apple* bluetooth keyboard with the Touch (never mind a 3rd party keyboard). I live by text files, notes & documents created on the fly. On the Nokia 5800, the Apple Bluetooth kbd pairs seamlessly and works perfectly. I want to make notes, create a word doc, use putty, etc, I just flash up the apple kbd and type away. It works on all apps. Simple. No hunt and peck on a soft kbd. Excellent work Nokia. Apple, you. must. be. kidding. Apple *make* lovely BT kbds. In fact, I’m using one now on my Win7 desktop machine. I’m not a mac/win/linux person. I just use what I like.

Next: no mass storage paradigm (or whatever you want to call it). On the touch, each app keeps its files hidden and inaccessible to any other app. No, and I mean NO transparency. No proper file management apart from over the air type of syncing or local ftp (although restricted to certain file types – wtf? I mean WTF?) So, attaching files to emails or downloading them is impossible unless the app kludges it to work or it’s an image (duh that’s useful…). By contrast, I can download *any* filetype on my 5800 and then sync and grab/open it on my PC or the Nokia using Docs to Go or something similar. Symbian S60 isn’t as slick, but it is *powerful* in ways that OS3.1.2 can only dream of after a night on ether and whiskey.

Next, syncing only via wireless. Whatever dim-bulb focus group at Apple decided to disallow USB syncing. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Even on my crummy old Windows Mobile devices I could sync a PC folders contents (regardless of file type) via USB or bluetooth with a directory on the mobile device. With a 32gB card in my HP 214, I could backup my entire latop HDD personal file area – and access the files as I wanted to. The nokia 5800 is no different. Nokia PC Suite isn’t pretty, but it *works* and works well.

I don’t want to have to use wifi (no go in a locked down corporate environment), I don’t want to use a cloud applications. It’s my data, I want it on my hard-drive – and I want it synced to my mobile device.

Cut and paste? WTF? This is a FEATURE of OS3.0? I. am. speechless. I originally thought this was a joke when I read about its absence. Nothing excuses this particular stupidity.

On the upside, I don’t mind the app store, I *LOVE* the smooth touch interface and yes the touch/iphone looks very sexy.

But, it (and the iphone) are toys when it comes to any sort of realistic PDA/PIM or computing functionality. Consider them media players with a mobile phone attached. However, they’re most assuredly not mobile computing devices.

The nokia 5800 *is* a mobile computing device and a very capable one. So, I’ll be carrying my ipod touch and nokia 5800 together.

Oh, and for a killer combination, install Joiku on your nokia 5800 – voila, it turns the 5800 (or other S60 phone) into an instant wifi hotspot to which you can connect your touch or iphone (plus laptop or whatever). Hello interwebs…

Until now, I had never understood the “locked down” criticisms of Apple products. Now I do.

I find all the reasons 100% true. Nokia 5800 definitely beat Iphone. The features are much better. You can say whatever you want, but I will still choose Nokia 5800.

wow lots of posts here..
do i get a 5800? or an iPhone?
whewwwww o_O

i think that these examples above tell which cell phone is better!:D

Came on guys, I have been using a 5800 for almost a year and I’m getting soon an iphone 3GS.

The 5800 is a humble toy compared to the iphone. Just take a look at the UI. The iphone is years ahead the 5800.

All of you, play just 3 minutes with an iphone and you’ll never get it out from your head. The 5800 just pales in comparison.

James Burland

Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

I’ve bookmarked this entry into my calendar for October 2009. I agree that 5800 has the potential to be an iPhone killer, however I think you may have underestimated Apple somewhat. Have you considered, for example, that the next iPhone may be available even before the 5800 in many important territories.

I don’t wish to dampening your enthusiasm for the 5800, but I fear that your ‘iPhone killer’ battle cry is a tad premature.

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I agree some place, but Iphone is almost as good as 5800.. 5800 is just a bit better. But like James said you underesimated the Iphone. Iphone is a great phone,but some parts misses. But i think its a tie. Both phones rocks :=)

well, its been 6 months since i got my 5800
my dad owns an iphone 3g..

My dad is 55 years old, pretty good @ application considering his age etc, uses email all day(work).. for his age, i’ll recommend the iphone(apart from its price).. its totally more user-friendly, especially when it comes to emails, and some browsing..

as for me, i’ll never trade ma 5800 for an iphone, even if they paid me.. and the “why” list is loooooooooooooooong… some of the stuff that aint mentioned alot:

-multitasking, no comment at the iphone… although u can use some 3erd party apps, but still, not that good(also jailbreaking for ma dad aint an options, its a work mobile).

-speakers, i let ma 5800 play music whenever im away from pc… nice loud/stero speakers… unlike the mono of iphones(kinda embracing compared to price)

- nokia maps is better than google map(in my country atleast)…. and still if u like, u can still use google maps on 5800( google’s latitude makes u feel u live in the future ^^).. i use both, additionally, although not confirmed, i feel the 5800 in gps is waaay better

-touch, iphone wins for sure in this, however, the touch response had improved surprisingly well, as of my very last update , 31.0.101 or something.. i can use msn and type pretty fast now, used to be crappy before… also, with the new opera beta, the browser is such a treat ^^. had both update and the new opera in the same day, and the phone just felt something else

-home screen of iphone sux, maybe thats just me, but try using “handyshell” in 5800, and u’ll c what i mean.

-filemanger/connectivity, dont need to add much over “Parkaboy’s” post(just a few posts above this one)

-resolution, “jay” dunno wat ur talking about, use high quality videos maybe? just watch the trailer of batman that comes with the 5800? …. actually i’ve never watched a highquality vid on the iphone to be honest, but i rrly rrly doubt its anywhere as good..

-size, 5800 looks like a phone, some may say bulky, but i like it this way, thick and heavy, thin too(at the same time aspect ratio 16:9, best one). Iphone looks more like a tablet, and imho plain ugly, seroiusly.. and it wont fit in most of ma pant’s pockets.

-operating system, symbian can be described in one word==> “sux”.. slow, ugly, sometimes buggy and gives u the feel its a bit limited. in the same time its leagues ahead of the iphone, the iphone OS is just faster coz it got a 2x faster processor lol(bit exaggerating but it have much true-ness in it), and the limitation that apple has on it are unjustifiable.

-store, if u filter itunes, and chose all the “useful” apps , and fill them to a list.. u’ll find all that list is covered in ovi(hate it) store, if not more.. (if u are a gamer, 5800 dosnt have a graphic accelerator, and this is one of the major downfalls of the 5800, so it might not work out well for u)

- Camera, quality, speed… video recording(30 fps)
-flash player
-flashlight, pretty useful and powerful(use it every other day rrly)
-proximity sensor, now thats pretty fun, and hell useful(im aware that iphone got one, but is it possible to code an app that uses it? dunno, didnt c any yet..)
-3.5mm headphone jack, which means u can use any headphones. also comes with a wired music controller. additionally, its also a tv out.

- touch input, i liked the finger’s electricity idea 4 years ago , but it seems it have lots of drawbacks, dosnt work if ur wearing gloves. in the 5800 u can write using a pen for instance(not THAT good, but its fine when u get used to it), also while browsing, using a pen to select “tiny” words is easier then actually zooming in then pressing it etc(but u can still do just that if u like… as long as i have the choice im happy )

-FM radio, use it daily for the news.

-battery battery battery battery, mentioned like 100 of times in this thread, but not anywhere near enough.. espically when ur iphone is one year old .. watching a movie on it is out of question.. u have no idea how many times the 5800 saved me, many times im stuck where i have to wait alone for 1-3 hours. whether its in college, airport or the street. i alwayz keep an unwatched movie/anime on it.. and after im done and still have time to wait, i still have 60% of ma battery up and can still call a friend for a long call or something..

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draw backs:

- i dunno, but from day one and till this day, the 5800 dosnt look its gonna last long… been 6 months now, fell alot of times, dosnt have a scratch yet, but still it dosnt look as strong as the iphone.

-graphic accelerator, not being able to watch .avi movies? :S or any video type other than mp4/flv and maybe realplayer’s

-kinetic scrolling.. the hardware is there, but nokia still didnt add it to the firmware,kinda apple like, /spit(even if added, its not as good as the iphone ofc, but its still pretty fine,).. many apps have it already, but not the main menu, or contacts list for instance.

- marking files and moving them around is a pain in the 5800, there is a work around for it, using a pencil app, but seriously thats a big fail.. its just like the example of iphone’s multitasking… ( its a big issue for me, maybe coz its been ignored/understatement by nokia :S)

-although the battery is excellent, charging it takes a looong time. dunno if its only me? noidea how much time does an iphone need, but in the 5800 its pretty alot, so long that i lose track. atleast 2-3 hours.. its important to “fully” charge ur batter, on the other hand it dosnt effect the battery much whether u charge it when its 20%, or 90% etc. so i charge it each day b4 i hit bed(still, the more “times” u charge, the battery life lessens, but thats like 2-3 years? just buy a new one by then..)

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all in all, if u want an affordable touch phone, 5800 is the way to go..

if u have the money, and want a powerful device, then buy the N900 when its out? (maybe its already out? i tend to act as if it dosnt exist until i own one ma self , but thats highly unlikly, and i luv ma 5800 to no ends(until i get the n900 )… )

there is not a single reason to buy an iphone anymore, unless u wanna play with its screen :S, lame, totally not worth the price.

from my view, anyone who have bought an iphone is plain ignorant, and had been tricked by apple, buying a much much much inferior phone for more than double the price …. man…

p.s. sorry about the long post, also, not all points covered. cant remember all the stuff since i just reformatted ma 5800, so lots of apps missing

Wow i cant believe how ignorant people are.You do know iphone has tomtom,navigon and so on, which are not using data plan.Anyways,both companies has enough app to make them way better then the way they started.Like both phones can play dvix,or most of the popular codacs.Only huge different is ,nokia has flash web-browser.

Thanks Guys
for all ur reviews.. Now I think I should get this one only..

i just bought a nokia 5800 and they are very good BUT the iphone is better 90,000 apps for the iphone please can some one tell me if the nokia has got more apps

Ps i try to sighn up for that ovi thing so i can download apps but i put my number in and it dont work Help Me Plz thanks guys

Into the bookmarks! NICE!~

iPhone is not a F40. In 5 years no one is going to care about your current iphone. Your iPhone will be as exciting as a Focus.
People will still be drooling over the F40 in 50 years plus.

the “nokia 5800″ sounds like a very nice phone if only it can be thinner like the “nokia 6700 classic” around 8mm so it can fit into the jean’s back pocket or does not create a bulk in a pant’s pocket.

wel i have just bought the i phone and its not that bad of a phone

note to Osvaldo (post 197)
sending music files is not a crime! what utter nonsense!
I run a recording studio and record original material for other people as well as my own stuff, are you saying it’s a crime for me to send someone one of my own songs?
go get an id card implant, get yourself chipped, you can then guarantee you’ll stay inside the law in the age of decreasing freedom!

oh, and why would anybody want to use something like latitude so that everyone knows where you are at any given time? as in the comment above; are we not individuals? (i hate to point out cliches here but 1984 & brave new world both seem to become more relevant as each season passes).

Back to the subject, Apple have become equal to microsoft in their suckiness. Nokia make versatile devices and are nicely accessible, Apple make fancy toys. happy playtime kids.

what’s bad with iPhone is apple made the phone totally locked from other phones. There are many trade-offs to consider with these two phones and what makes them better from each other.

Build:
iPhone: It’s slim. But it’s heavier. Why? Because you’ll hate a phone that is big and heavy. But the iPhone has good design.
Nokia 5800: Made it out of plastic. Why? Because it’s fat than the iPhone. You’ll hate it too if its fat and heavy. Making the phone more solid(iphone) made it heavier.
Durability:
iPhone: My friend accidentally dropped his iPhone and it caused two major problem. The screen was destroyed and dead cells were on the screen. The speaker loss its clarity. This phone will fall heavily simply because its really heavy.
Nokia 5800: Try dropping it, you’ll see that it’s still the same. But why would you? This phone is very good.

Bluetooth:
iPhone: It’s not able to share file. Why? See it made you sweat paying high price getting your apps and songs. And iPhone is the only phone I know to have no file sharing to other phones.
Nokia 5800: You know it’s complete as mentioned above plus you can enjoy playing music with bluetooth headset and speakers. Also bluetooth can be used to control your PC and other devices.

Price:
iPhone: It’s touch screen is a projected capacitive touch screen that is by far the most accurate touch screen with multi touch feature even with a screen protector. And that’s because of how the screen is built. This screen too is a static one. Plastic wont work on this phone This is one of the factor that makes the iPhone costly.
Nokia 5800: The Screen of 5800 is a resistive one. This is a cheap one. Because nokia wants to consider the price. Resistive screens are easy to repair than capacitive ones.

There’s still more to talk about them but some of them are already known like the battery issues, unlocked and locked iphones, the customization, the availability of repairs and apps, the camera, the OS.

By the way, about why the apple is having there gadgets locked from others. Because they want that customers are patronizing only their own products in case a customer chooses their brand.

Another Q & A:
Question: “Why does the 5800 xpressmusic lack kinetic scrolling and more contacts bar?”
Answer: “So that the 5800 will not destroy the market of it’s brother 5530″ Try putting those features from 5530 to 5800. You’ll find the 5530 useless. Lolz.

thanks to all of u guys.
i was just confused which phone to buy and you all helped me to take my decision
thank you once again.
but i hv heard 5800 hangs too much
is it true…???

i think 5800 is muchmuchmuch better.
byebye, iPhone!

the nokia 5800 is offering everyone a truely future phone.. it has everything that I was looking for this long…
in fact, I sell one of my laptop to buy this awesome thing…

nokia 5800, is the easier, cheaper but greater than Iphone…

Iphone.. keep ‘kill’ people by your bussines plan.. and nokia kill you now.. (3GS??.. I don’t know how this thing works.. but I believe it already been killed by N97)

Hi!! I read i think up to the 63rd comment and I’m convinced… I’ve been mulling over whether to get the iPhone or the latest Nokia XpressMusic here in Australia. I got the Nokia for my mum and it’s great but I want to use the internet on it so i’ve been trying to decide which phone to get. Judging from the comments I managed to read, for a user like me it wouldn’t REALLY matter which phone i got (i just want to check my email and facebook!). As for some other points… since Nokia don’t change their charger jacks and the like (apart from the one change to the slimmer jacks) I can use the car charger that i have from my previous Nokia. I also don’t have to learn the Menu lay out all over again – like my mum, who was a Motorola fan – and the resolution and the Interface is impressive on the Nokia! Also… Nokia’s have always been sturdy – the amount of times i’ve accidentally dropped my phone and nothing happened (well, apart from a few scratches, but they could’ve also happened in my handbag)! The iPhone needs a cover otherwise you’re screwed (my friends have them, so i’m not completely unaware). I agree that the apps store on the iPhone is a major bonus, but I want to get apps that i’d actually use. No offense intended to anyone by what i’m about to write, but i installed a polish dictionary on my mum’s Xpress Music Nokia and i didn’t see that option from the iPhone (and i DID look). Also, the idea of having finer smudges on my phone irritates me and the Nokia provides that little stick-writer thing as well as what looks like a guitar pick that you can attach to your phone if it’s in a case (as my mum’s is) and use that instead of your finger… unless i didn’t get the memo i didn’t notice that with the iPhone :/ Also… in the first 63 comments i managed to read i noticed that mainly men were responding… here’s a woman’s p.o.v.: the iPhone is simply BIGGER… how do i put that thing in my small, going out handbag if it’s the only thing that will fit?? The Xpress Music isn’t much smaller, but then at least my purse fits into the bag as well Also, i love the fact that the Nokia screens act like mirrors already (they’re just so shiny) and you don’t have to go out and get a cover with a mirror (as my friend has done with her iPhone). So yeah… I’ve been loyal to Nokia since my first phone (excuse me, i DID have an NEC but i didn’t even wait until MY contract finished but my mother’s to get a new Nokia ) so i think that that needs to be considered – loyalty and trust. When i had battery issues with my old Nokia’s, i was in and out of the local Nokia store and that’s it Also, the staff were awesome when my Nokia played up – got it back in 2 days and they offered my a replacement while mine was fixed Apple hasn’t even hit the market with their computers, why would they try with phones… it’s like putting your hands into two different jars while trying to open a third with your foot :/ The iPods are cool – visually… but that’s about all i can comment about THEM. Nokia rules Thanks for helping me make up my mind

@Samfisher there is actually a better shortcut. Just press long enough the menu(home) button and all the apps running in the background will be shown. If you just tap on the application, that application will be opened. But if you press and hold the app, it will give you choices: Open and Exit. You can also just open SMS,Mails, closing your bluetooth, etc easily. If those are active, you can see their icon at the upper right of the screen which you can tap.

In your calls, the names of the caller are spoken too, if you have the setting.

Another thing, yeah! as seiji said, you can actually make your 5800 look like an iphone(not physically) by making themes. You can watch it on youtube. BE AMAZED! the iphone can’t do that. The 5800 can be made to look like a very customized phone. That can also be seen on youtube.

I just bought 5800 last Saturday and enjoying the fun. I hope I can update my firmware soon.

Here in the PH, it costs P13,590. That’s about 290 dollars. Cheaper than the iPhone. Enjoy!

I’ve owned a 5800 for roughly a year now and I have to say that it’s the best phone I’ve ever had. Truthfully I’ve never owned an iPhone but have friends who do and after reading the spec and trying theirs I really can’t see what everyone raves about. The only areas I would say the iPhone has the 5800 beat is the sheer amount of Apps available and aesthetics. In every other respect the 5800 I feel is superior.
I’ve long been of the opinion that many of the “fashionable” devices are used by those who only want them for that exact reason. Simply because something is trendy does not make it better (the Sony Walkman MP4 for example is far superior to the iPod but rarely seen as the iPod is seen as being “cooler”). Buying a product, any product, for that reason alone is playground mentality. In almost every way that counts the 5800 beats the iPhone.
The person who stated that the iPhone beats the 5800 cos it does everything a phone should do really needs to reassess their comment. Technically speaking all a phone NEEDS to do is make phone calls – nothing more! The 5800 can make calls just as well as the iPhone so if thats all you want in a device then just go out and buy a 10 year old Motorola for a fiver.
I think the 5800 hundred is more like a personal communication and entertainment tool. I’m a gadget freak and I want something in my pocket that is technically superior. I couldn’t care less if the iPhone is shinier or thinner! I have hundreds of songs and several movies saved on my 5800 and the picture quality is superb and the sound quality is astounding, even with the headphones unplugged. Other simple things make the Nokia a pleasure to use too; the fact you have a universal headphone socket is great, web surfing is easy and you dont have to get your Apps from one single source.

In the end if you are simply someone who rushes out to buy something simply because all your friends have it or its deemed to be fashionable to own one then the iPhone is for you.

If you want a device that can do everything the iPhone can and more and is technically more sophisticated then it has to be the Nokia 5800.

i have the 5800. i think its gr8.
better than iphone (1st one), and the 3g, but not the 3gs.
that is the only phone i would upgrade to… but the price is too much so i dont think that will be happening anytime soon lol

Had my nokia 5800 XM for about 6 months and i love it, this webpage is the reason i got it (was looking at the iphone). I have nothing against apple i love the ipod touch, but as a phone the 5800 beats the iphone on price (cheaper), practicality (more managable), features (sterio speakers, better camera, higher resolution, generally can do more)
From experience of using an iphone and owning a 5800 i can say that a 5800 can do everything the iphone can do and more! but in a better way.

However i love the response of the iphone touch screen but it’s really an ipod touch with some small modifications.

Hi, these is really a nice article on Nokia 5800 v/s I-Phone, I agree with you that Nokia 5800 is the best amongst all the phones in today scenarios.

You guys are so obsessed with the Nokia 5800 that you forget about many other phones that have a better advantage over this phone. Once in a while it is good that companies fail in a competition. The best thing to do is to look for something innovative and trendy rather than just go making something similiar and then fail later. The Nokia 5800 is still an underdog because of the slow Symbian and the resistive touchscreen which many users find it obtrusive to their tasks.

Its time they make a faster operating Symbian OS (which they are gradually making), good support for additional applications and a complete overhaul for OVI, a light weighing phone and try to include the best features in it’s phone.

And remember, Apple still has innovative features that were taken from Nokia. Nokia should have already ditched their Symbian OS from their repository but didn’t mainly because of a fan base and existing developers. Nokia should revamp it’s strategy and make something new rather than pay attention to existing technology.

I have a nokia 5800 and i simply love it and im a big fan of nokia since long but the point is u cant dare to compare it with iphone..nokia 5800 might be gud in many ways but when it comes to os and hardware 5800 then it losts to iphone heavily..there are thousands and thousands of funky apps for iphone which are hard to resist and in 5800 there are few peanuts..no one is making anything for 5800..5800′s hardware sucks to core..it cant play a game like asphalt smoothly and that to with sucking graphics..thats the difference u cant compare iphone app power with nokia’s even in a dream..man luk at the gaming in iphone..just see the graphics of asphalt 5,fifa 10,nfs shift,motocross,baseball,call of duty etc on iphone..just see other apps like pocket guitar,pocket piano and others..but on 5800 you cant run touchpiano and touch guitar apps smoothly..they suck to the core..thats the difference its hardware is fucking slow..thats all but im still in luv wid my 5800..and i havnt used an iphone but now its my dream to have one…

Well, I’ve used both Nokia and iPhone. iPhone’s OS is good, but multitask, iTunes (The Worst Shit I’ve Ever Seen, but I must use it b’cause I’ve got an iPod Nano), price (in my currency: iPhone – 2500, Nokia – 1000), and UI speed… Yes, iPhone is fast but Nokia is not so slow as you said. That’s why (in some reasons) Nokia 5800 is better than iPhone 3G before 3.0. We’re waiting (we – 5800 users) for firmware update with features of 5530 & N97.

Multitask OS – iPhone sucks in this feature.
Synchronize with PC – like I said, iTunes is The Worst Shit I’ve Ever Seen. In Nokia you can use PC Suite to manage your phone, but it’s optional.
Price – iPhone is made with good materials, Nokia is built with plastic. But I think that phone is to call somebody or send him an SMS message.
App Developing – You cannot install home-developed app on iPhone until you jailbreak your phone. In Nokia, just request for certificate, sign the application and install! No problems.
Hacking – iPhone and Jailbreak: I’m sure that users with iPhone OS 3.1.2 are having problems with jailbreak. And it’s partially not available in Central Europe! And for iPhone is only one method of hacking. Nokia has got several methods of hacking available all over the World.

That’s my opinion.

I’m not the Nokia Fanboy.

And sorry for my English.

Nice article, but I think it’s still too rough for the one wearing “apple-goggles”, to me it seems like you’re being unfair :/

Hi,

I got this phone for 2 months and i really like it very much.
I only had 1 problem with it, for the rest i have no problems with it.
Also agree with every point.

Greetz,
Svenny555

Hiya!! Happy Holidays!!

Firstly, this is the web site that helped me make up my mind as to which phone to get – the 5800 XpressMusic or the iPhone. If you guessed, I got the Nokia Now that i’ve had a chance to use it and try things out on it i can easily say that I LOVE THIS PHONE! I was out with a friend and he ragged me out for the phone i chose so i simply said to him: Bluetooth me a song right now! And, of course, he couldn’t! “But i can email it to you!” he told me – yes, and use up the internet usage you get on your contract when i’m sitting right NEXT TO YOU! lol. I will admit that the touch screen is not as sensitive as that of an iPhone – i use my nail to touch the screen if i can’t be bothered taking out the included writer – but that’s about all i can see…. i have a multi-language dictionary on the phone (as i speak 4 languages, it’s very useful to me) and it took me all of 5 minutes to download them ALL… how much time do you need to look through all the apps in the iPhone store? I transferred files from my previous Nokia to my 5800 without any hiccups and didn’t have to sit there inputting all my contacts (as my mother did from her Motorola)… SUPER! Was also pleasantly surprised at the size of the memory card I transferred all my photos and music from my previous Nokia also I know the iPhone is cool, but as Mark J said – if you want something that works and not because it’s the latest trend – look deeper into what you NEED! I’ve got an allowance on internet usage from my provider and i honestly don’t think i’m going to use it simply because: I HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME!! I check my email, my facebook or my bebo and maybe write a quick response to whomever has messaged me – i’m not gaming on there and i’m certainly not using the phone as my substitute internet So, thanks once again to all those who put my mind at ease – i’m once again a very happy Nokia customer
Peace and Happy New Year!

I think it’s a matter of choice. Both phones have good sides, but I wonder if iPhone would be as popular as it is now if it wouldn’t had the application support. As an 5800 owner I must admit that phone is not as fast as iPhone and it’s buggy a little. But comparing the prices, 5800 is the clear winner. But I would buy a 5800 again if their prices were the same

Can anybody tell me whether I can open, create or edit excel files on nokia 5800. If yes then how?

I beg to disgaree about the point that 5800 / or nokia for that matter, has superior os and hardware durability. Have you searched the net for the LATEST review of 5800? It has soo many bugs to last a lifetime of shame! I for one am a vistim of this phone. Only after a few months of careful use, the fone already broke down. I can not list all the problems I had with this fone, it pains me just to think about it. Just google for other sites before getting this fone . The price, no matter how cheap, is still not worth the headache it gave. But then again, you get what you pay for, I guess. SO much for comparing this with an iphone.

Hey, Nokia 5800 is an excellent phone for ever. all functions are very good and sound is clear. thanks for sharing all tips. all tips is very useful for me.

This is just another typical article about “wills,ifs,buts” and no acutal proven real experince, the Nokia 5800 wasn’t and isn’t better than the Iphone thats fact, look at the sales, 3 billion apps sold… what more evidence than that? I think people should at least try the product for at least a whole month before thinking they know the facts.

Nokia cannot do touch screens and no you can’t base a whole phone on its touchscreen abilities but when it hugely hampers your experince I guess you have to take it into huge consideration.

5800 its really amazing.. its cool.everything got. but why dude the camera really bad when taking pic at night. pls help me bro to solve this problem. for iphone sorry to say u r wasting ur money

the Nokia 5800 is superior to the iPhone in all ways and nothing can change my mind.

I have owned 5800 for 2 months now and after reading some of the comments, I’m very convinced that the 5800 is a ‘BETTER BUY’ than the iPhone. But that doesn’t mean that it is superior to the iPhone. As I see it, both phones serve two different markets and both phones have its own flaws while they also have aspects they excel in. That’s why as a consumer, one must assess very well the reasons in selecting a phone.

Now a little bit of comparison on some major points:
Functionality – hands down to the 5800 here, there are just too many important and basic functions the iPhone doesn’t have

Ease-of-use – though its really up to the user (I’m comfortable on using my 5800), I think the iPhone takes this simply because of its super smooth touch screen.

Entertainment – both platforms have a share of their cool applications but if you’re someone who would use their phone to play games, then the iPhone would suit you better esp with its multi-touch capability. In terms of video and audio playing, I would say both phones are equal.

Battery – my brother owns an iPhone and he’s complaining that the battery is draining so fast. My 5800 lasts 3-4 days with regular use.
So I would go with the 5800 (but to me it doesn’t really matter as long as you bring a charger with you)

Speed – its obvious that iPhone takes this with its better processor. But the 5800′s speed is not AS BAD AS YOU MAY THINK.

Affordability – With the 5800 being less than half the price of the cheapest iPhone, you got to hand this down to Nokia. Thanks for making such a very functional phone for a VERY affordable price.

Other comparisons are stated in this site and comments above.

Now the major setbacks:
5800xm – Aside from its mediocre resistive touch screen and no multi-touch capability, I’m taking my own experiences into account.

1) My 5800 RANDOMLY hangs for some reason and has happened a couple of times. By random I mean it sometimes can run perfectly smooth for 5 days then all of a sudden it hangs. One time while I was listening to the music player and another time while it was just on standby mode. It was weird since you can still press the touch screen, but it takes around 20secs for the screen to load. (for example, at menu screen I press back and it takes 20 secs to go back to home screen) And for some reason I can’t turn off or reset my phone by using the buttons. What I do is I remove the battery to turn off the phone. Such a hassle. (Anyone encountered this problem before?)

2) When browsing (using opera), when a page loads, sometimes a warning comes up ‘Memory full. Close some apps first’. Thing is, I have no other apps opened. I’m not sure if its with the amount of applications installed on my 5800 or just the RAM is too low.

iPhone – 1) No multitasking (seriously?!), c’mon who wouldn’t want to make a text message with the music player on.

2) No flash support for web browsing (again, SERIOUSLY?). Apple really has to do smth about this.

Now the bottom-line..
BOTH PHONES HAVE ITS OWN FLAWS. IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR A TOOL TO PLAY GOOD GAMES, GET A PS3 OR XBOX. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE HIGH-QUALITY PICTURES, GO BUY A SLR. You can’t possibly find everything in a phone(upto this day at least). If you are looking for a phone with more complete and important functions, then the 5800 is the way to go. But if you are willing to spend an unreasonable amount of cash mainly for an entertainment and more “fashionable” phone to make you look cool, then go ahead and be tricked by Apple. But I guess it all boils down to how these companies market their products and its up to us consumers whether we get swayed by their illusions. But I have to say Steve Jobs is doing a very good job at that.

I have purchased Nokia 5800 on 14th Jan. I am facing the screen fuzzy problem when I switched on the phone. It shows nokia logo then goes fuzzy and then dead(Some times it comes alive when we tap on screen ot press any button). I encountered this problem in the store(Univercell,hyderabad,India) The sales Guy replaced the phone with other one,I swithed off the phone and left the store. After reaching home when I have switch on the phone the problem is same fuzzy screen(not always fuzzy when switvh off n on but many times randomly), next day I went to showroom and told the guys about this they wondered and checked my phone.They also encountered same prob I asked with frustated voice, they spoke to their manger or so on the phone and again replaced with another one, which looked fine for some time(15-20 mins), now I have tested it with all possible ways to confirm at least this one is good but SAME PROBLEM DISPLAY dancing in 16M colours Store rep’s shocked and said this is history in their service and they again called reginal head and their manager and tested in other piece same prob. I am fed up with that and I changed my mind to not to buy there.I asked for cash refund they contacted senior officials and said no refund possible they will bring anothet lot of stock or from other store same piece, I am not convinced then another offer of any other model again not convinced I stand only on Cash Back, After a big discussion and threatend tehir rep’s their reginal head came to store and he is having excellent marketing skills and patience his only motive is to convince us for any thing but not refund. With me there is another friend who was a marketing manager previously and he stand by me only on cash back and he gave a class or brain washe to that guy at last they have agreed for cash back within 3 working Days. This is my bitter experiance with 5800 which I am still in love. I searched for display prob in net I have found a plenty of prob’s by users. Link here http://www.360east.com/?p=1175

Plese help me if you are facing same prob how you fixed this,

Still you recommend me to buy 5800 or go to down graded ver of 5230 or upcoming 5235 or any other phones

Requirements

Budget 15000 INR
Smart Phone (multi taksing and app’s loader)
3G, Blue tooth, Wifi(not must)
Good cam min 2MP – 5MP Secondary cam for video calls (not must)
Multimeaedia capabilities (Dual speakrs) or at least quality output
GPS

Dear Sandy – All the 4 pieces I have checked are Oct & Nov’09 made. Ya too thought the same and once i get the cash back Iwill try in NOKIA priority. Am still surprised how a reputed market leader NOKIA is releasing stock without QC! If it continues Brand image of NOKIA and the Quality of their products of company will damage their reputation and position.

As a die hard of NOKIA I don’t want this to be happen…. NOKIA please wakeup……!!!!

oh come on friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!everybody knows that nokia 5800 is better than fuckin iphone nokia 5800 has everything fuck iphone, sorry,iphone killer wins and iphone lacks

Sure – Nokia 5800 is 20 times better that iphone!!!:) That is why Nokia is nearly bunkrupt and loosing the market share at frightening speed…

Just read one of the replies above.

“no multi tasking on iphone. You can’t text, without stopping the music you are playing”

Surely thats a lie, you must be able to do that? If not thats perfetic.

o..for god sake mathias…those who own a nokia 5800 is not poor..do u actually think that most people will go for a nokia than apple because of its price??if u think that u r a rich brat..ill be always there to compete with you…the only fuckin reason that apple iphone’s price is hi is because that the ceo is a bitch..he wanna be richer than nokia and to be the leader in mobile industry..i know that u own an apple..but not nokia 5800..so u started to talk bad about nokia for some dumb ass reason…apple should pay full attention to computers as apple was the first to create note book computer..now,nokia 5800 have a new update available..the latest update enables the phone to have a kinetic scrolling,faster performance,auto qwerty keypad by turning the phone to landscape while smsing,better user interface which look like nokia N97,faster gps load and it fix all of the 5800 bugs..its an excellent upgrade and its what nokia 5800 consumers been waiting for…i own an apple iphone 3Gs and its update sucks..it need to pay for some of its useless update…when i go oversea like europe or any other country…my suckish apple will update by itself via 3G connectivity which charge my phone bill a lot of money…nokia 5800 will always ask for a connection type every time u go internet and will not auto update over the air without asking permission..NOKIA ROCKS!!!KEEP IT UP!!and i will always buy nokia’s latest touch screen phone…i just bought Nokia N900 yesterday and it is awesome..it is based on maemo and symbian software which enable computer like multi-tasking…the camera is 10 times more better than iphone 3Gs and is faster than iphone…the only disadvantage of nokia n900 is that it only can be viewed in landscape mode…but the future update of n900 will fix the problem..love it..

can i know the current price of N5800

You forgot to add that you cant multi task on the iphone and you can on the nokia 5800.
Great reasons btw

I think all you 5800 lovers out there are comparing it to a stock iPhone, and though i have no experience with the 5800 what so ever, i can see how a stock iPhone “could” be not as good. though, I don’t know anybody that has a stock iPhone. With my jailbroken iPhone 3GS I can use my iPhone as a wireless dongle to connect a wifi-less device to any wireless router using the iPhones USB wire. I can use it as a hotspot so people i give my WEP key to can use my 3G internet on their laptop for example while in a car. i have the WedaPanel lockscreen that can tell me the weather/moon phases(don’t really care about the moon myself)/and live radar weather maps straight from my lockscreen. i can use the 32GB (27gb after formatting) as a flashdrive. i can use VLC player to watch movies of any format. download torrents, yes, torrents on my iPhone. video ringtones, a different video plays for different contacts. customize every single sound the iphone makes just in case you don’t like the stock sounds. i even got a compass, i never go hiking, but just in case i do. you don’t like the keyboard, then use dragon dictation to speak your thoughts, bad words don’t work, i know. using 3G unrestricter youtube videos thru 3G look like if i was seeing them thru wifi connection. IMobileCinema gives you flash. don’t want to have loading time for youtube videos, get MxTube and download youtube videos so you can watch them anywhere at anytime and not use your internet connection(show your friends instantly). last but not least, the countless amount of apps getting added everyday. if apple doesnt allow them like google voice, go through Cydia and get it for free, yes, i have google voice on my iPhone, it’s awesome!!!
I’m not saying that the 5800 is a crappy phone, it might be a great phone, infact, it might be second best, but that’s it. oh, and my iPhone does have voice command, i tell it to call someone and my iPhone obeys, i tell it to play music(even a specific song) and it obeys i can even tell it to dial spoken number(call 555-555-1234) and it obeys. now, isn’t a jailbroken iPhone in it’s class of it’s own?

i disagree with this, most of those points about the iphone are either wrong, actualy GOOD in my opinon, or nobody honestly cares about in the real world, i have owned both phones, iphone pissed on the 5800, i love the iphones

Do you still have doubts?
NOKIA is suing Apple for STEALING 10 NOKIA PATENTS!!!
See this at BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8321058.stm

‘nough said.

Dear Admin
This is a nice blog which u have made. I m using Nokia 5800 XpressMusic phone and i m happy 2 use it because when it comes 2 spend money wisely on a product which is more user friendly, light weight, stylish, comes with a camera with lens of Carl Zeiss………….. etc.
Now a days when 3G use is increasing it is good 2 have secondary camera for video conferencing.
For music lovers its good 2 share music, wallpaper, videos, ringtones…….etc without Bluetooth u can’t do these things on the move..
Even for game lovers, they can play games using Bluetooth, on individual phone with individual player…..
Simply its NOKIA nothing else.

one thing about nokia is u can overclock the cpuur self ive got mine at full capacity 620mhz u cant do that with an iphone now can u?
Can u play with the system files?
Dont think so apple are just a bunch of stubborn idiots they just dont want developers making apps for them. And im one of them that will never touch iphones

21:
Can use as a PC remote control over blueTooth

22:
work as a web cam with PC

23:
Can use as a GPS device with built in GPS

24:
Full functional email client

25:
Tons of FREE 3rd party software

Hey, i just came across this site while researching a problem with my phone after doing the update. Actually, it wasn’t a problem, its just that I now need to swipe the screen rather than touch it when answering calls or dismissing calendar appointments…

anyway, just wanted to say this is a great site and i love my Nokia 5800. I have no desire for an iPhone, nor will I be a sheep and just buy Apple products because everybody else does. That is another reason the Nokia 5800 is superior – the people that get them are smart enough to make their own decisions! Although, i am sorry to say i reluctantly bought an iPod last year – basically because of all the stuff i was buying (clock radio, home theatre) had iPod docks.

Ok, I own the nokia 5800 and i have to say that I’m very pleased with it. it’s a very good phone. Iphone on the other hand is awful, my sister has it. she is not pleased with it. but sure she can’t get rid of it because our parent won’t buy her a new phone ). tat phone has nothing. no zoom on the camera, no flash and a lot of stuff is missing. it doesn’t deserve a penny.
You shouldn’t spend your money on that Iphone buy a real phone

I am reading a few of the comments here holding my Samsung OMNIA HD. You guys argue about which is better. Mine has an 8MP HD camera, HD VIDEO PLAYER, a crystal-clear AMOLED SCREEN, a massive 16GB of internal storage with a card slot expandable to 32GB, a Virtual 5.1 channel Dolby surround sound engine (watching movies and listening to music while on headphones will kick your asses), jackhammer loud stereo speakers – just a few basics.

@.J , comment 320

nice post, but actually u can do all that in the 5800
usb internet(use ovi), being a wireless hotspot(use JoikusSpot), weather thingi, usb flash, and so on, maybe not vlc, but there are lots of media players(smartmovie), i confess that .avi sux on 5800, but playing HQ mp4 just pawns iphone .. i think i saw a torrent app too for symbian, but seriously?? the iphone’s battery will die in the first 30mb

true the iphone is a stronger device, hardware wise, but its still sluggish at times…

… there are lots of specs that the iphone dont have, and they are just pure basic for me…

-a great LOUD speakers…
-a nicer resoultion screen, better anime/shows experience
-a usable and nice camera, ecellent in vid recording, 30fps
-a VERY bright flashlight, a much better A gps,
-3.5mm headphone jack, to use ur own headphones
-much much longer battery life, and replaceable ones too.. and if u like u can buy an extra one for emergencies..
-price is cheaper for more than 2x XD..
-customizable OS.. even if via hacks.. u know changing fonts,boot screens/sounds, themeeffects, homescreens and so on..
-somthing that actually fits in my pocket

there are a few more, but u cant remember it all …

i LUV the iphone screen, like most of ppl, but the 5800 screen is catching up with every update

i use orange home
screen vmenu.. and it rrly makes ma 5800 look cooler than the iphone ..

so in short, if the 5800 had capacitive screen(iphone’s), and some extra rams.. it would mob the floor with the iphone .. but its still the “better” phone without them, from ma point of view at the very least …

I have a Ford Fiesta. It is better than a Rolls Royce Phantom because:

1) It’s easier to park
2) It does more miles to the gallon
3) You can change the radio station using the controls on the wheel
4) You can buy it in yellow and red

Nokia 5800 is a great phone compared to Iphone but wish there was better for these solution to nokia 5800
1. Heats up fast
2. Can be slow at responding
3. Hangs
4. errors

no offence guys, but these probs r happening to my nokia 5800..
But for other apps n stuff, its a pretty nice phone~

I am glad to read that the Iphone has competition. I do not like the messaging feature and this is just a simple feature that any phone has but Apple have made it difficult and frustrating, you can’t even accidentally tilt the phone too much or it will change the keypad to a different angle it drives me crazy and being a woman with nails makes it even harder because the touch screen does not sense that you are even tapping on the screen. I will never get and Iphone and would rather have a Nokia 5110 than use this phone.
Also I am surprised, at most comments left, about the terrible grammar, spelling and phrasing. Come on people we have spell check, predictive text, etc.

I LOVE APPLE iPHONE

I agree all these comparisons but think… Nokia is shivering just for one apple product ( I mean iPhone) , Moreover nokia 5800 came after iphone….. WHO invented touch technology ?

iPhones were used by Bekk laboratory

I have the nokia 5800 and its ovi store is the worst app store ever. On it everything costs money and is very crummy.

I respect Apple in term of creative. Because of that I’m using Apple product all the while. I’m using Mac, iPod but not iPhone. Apple invented home computer, Apple invented 1000 song’s in your pocket device, but when come to mobile phone, they invented something new and missing some major function of mobile phone at the same time. That’s because the technology today is not mature enough for Apple to include everything in it. Not mature in such a way that the cost to include everything in iPhone is not tally for their marketing strategy. That’s why I didn’t purchase iPhone since the very first model. I believe they will come out something soon after Google launch Nexus One.

As for Nokia, they foreseen a new market requirement raising. They know they must catch up, or else they will be eliminate real soon. One thing interesting about this 5800 is that they include the shadow of iPhone beauty plus the basic mobile function in today market into it. One of the best I can find in market. At least it haven’t disappoint me and iPhone disappoint me even before I buy it.

Conclusion, Nokia 5800 win my support for this round.

Can anybody suggest me how can I get GPS service Garminn software free of cost to install in 5800 ?

Plz mail me.
Thanks

The iphone was great,until discovering it being the first phone I have known to restrict bluetooth, so goodby and hello 5800

Hey,

I have a Nokia 5800 but I’m trying out my friends iPhone. Yes, it does need a flash, better camera and front camera, but it is actually a great phone. In terms of physical model the Nokia has a lot going for it, the handset is nicer to hold and use e.t.c, but the iPhones OS is excellent. Its quick and easy-to-use, where the Nokia can lag, and in a way, more fun. There are also two very valid points at the top however: The iPhone has iTunes, the most used music playing software avaliable (although I personally prefer ovi player) that brings 185,000 apps to the iPhone, and that these smartphones are more small personal computers. Aside a few things, they can do mostly what a laptop can, except use flash and write HTML and stuff. Yeah, please don’t shoot me down, I do have a Nokia after all..

Apples time is over ppl, since steve jobs said no to flash, secondly nokia gave me over 5 firmware updates at the same price, and the tube is still competing the newer cell phones, so is there anything the iphone users have to say.
Apples ipad are a failure, i dont know why ppl are buying it, maybe they want to keep the first touch computer at homes to show in the near future, but apple in truth is an isolated computer industry, they never did and also can never mingle with the computer industry, they dont know the meaning of computing, to make the most of their machine, apple dont know how to use their hardware.

I used to have a Nokia 5800 until I had an opportunity to upgrade to an Iphone 3gs. Sure there are a few things missing on the iphone compared to the 5800 but there is only one important thing between the two that makes the iphone superior to me and that is its userbility.The iphone is fast and accurate to use, or should I say a pleasure to use a pleasure that did not come close with the touch screen 5800, I found it cumbersome and slow compared with the iphone.Also contrary to screen resolution data, I found the iphone screen is sharper and easier to see in sunlight than the 5800.

i knoew that i phone sux

I started reading the discussion from the first post. Starting from 2008 going all the way down to 2010 i have realised apple made all arguements starting from 2008 obscelete wit only 2 phones in 2 years:) What apple did is revelotionary you like it or not you have to accept it:) 3.5 billion downloads in 2 years from the application store:) over 50.000 developers and 200.000 apps:) My first apple device was iphone. I am a gadget freak i think of a gafdget then try to find out if its done by someone on net t5hen i go and buy it. Since my first iphone in 2008 i stopped buying gadgets cause every app is a new gadget with iphone.

İ stream all my movies and music, i control my car my house and my whole entertainment system with iphone, i carry all my music in it, i buy tickets follow schedules, order delivery, follow my friends locations, watc h worldcup, plan my projects, send money with paypal, follow my diet, monitor my home with my ip cam%

I love ma 5800. Using it over one year now without a problem. It has everything you need and there are lots of free apps in internet. But I hate it’s camera.. Camera of 5800 really sucks. Pics taken at night looks horrible coz there’s no synchronization between the camera and the LED flasher. I still wonder why they couldn’t put a 5MP cam with a zenon flasher just like they did in N82.

im getting nokia 5800 its my dream phoneeee 1st touch screen phone i wanted a i phone and after this blog i know i must buy a 5800 thanks admin regards to tube 5800

I also really like the picture and video makers on the 5800. Also, if you get a drawing app, (i have paintpad, its a good one!) you can edit those pics in details! Hey, if anyone from you could suggest a free movie-maker for 5800, i’d REALLY appreciate it. Though the video capture makes an error, while capturing, the picture stops for ten secs, but sound keeps going… Anyone can help me with that?

Hey guys,
great article, I have just got a Nokia 5800 and I love it because of its versitality and the availability of applications, not to mention the bluetooth sending speeds and data storage capapabilities (You can only get a 16GB memory card with Nokia, but in reality it will support any micro SD card, I tried it with a 32GB, and it worked, but it wasnt mine so I just stick to my 16GB one)
However some people at my school are saying that the Nokia 5800 is crap and that it is outdated and the iPhone and BlackBerry’s are much better, but when I disagree with them, thay downgrade me and make me feel bad….but thats another story…
Anyway, what could I use as an argument, a propper solid one as when I mention screen resolution and data storage, bluetooth, anything I can think ofin terms of aps and wi-fi/3.5G/WLAN etc.PLEASE HELP!!!!

The 5800 may have a better hardware spec, but as you will ultimately realise, a smartphone is primarily a software experience.

The OS and apps on the 5800 are rubbish.

Yes the iphone is more expensive, but I cannot put a price on the hours I have wasted trying to fix unnecessary problems on my 5800. Factory resets etc..

It is just not good enough.

if you have questions regarding modding, updates, softwares and tricks on your 5800 feel free to buzz me here!

one more thing iphone users YOUR IPHONE SUCKS!

the name is BONZII…

MARK are you reading my posts???

the answer is YES! i run my whole system using my phone MY 5800 PHONE. as u can see your i phone OS is just a copy-cut from 5800 OS. want some proof? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8321058.stm now tell me can your “IPHONE” RUN??? he better does coz if not my 5800 will EAT YOUR IPHONE!!!!

ciao!

lets be serious here

lets compare the 3g to the nokia 5800

which has better sound quality
which has a stronger processor
which has more ram
which has faster loading capabilities of apps
which has a heat sensored screen
which is better looking
which has more advanced application
which gps

i can make the list go on for ages, if i want to advance my iphone even more i can jail break it, what awaits nokia? a new brand to try and compete again, but once again becomes rendered useless. nokia are like Dell, with that it is a company trying to dominate the market with the latest technology, but lets be serious here, apple dominate the market with phones and computers. i would simply buy any appple product for the advance operating systems create by such a good company. 1 macbook = 4 dell laptops during my time at uni,1 apple iphone= 3 nokia phones including the nokia 8890( very stylish and so called indestrutible phone and 1 lg phone, apple products have much longer life span than any possible nokia products and if a problem is found with an apple product, can be sorted up an update. thats how advance apple are. nokia, lol it doesn’t even have a strong enough processor to play tetris

With WHAT Conrad??? ANTENNA PROBLEMS??? HAHAHAHA
me and my 5800 IS MUCH BETTER THAT you and your iPHONE 4!

the only difference is the package dude! but what, patent of the new iPHONE 4 still copied from nokia 5800. then youll gonna tell iphone 4is way better than 5800 hahahah

im better than you iphone fanatics! hehehe i can make my 5800 omnia i8190 and run all the apps and softs just what ive said i can hack you system using my 5800 i can break your firewall using my 5800. CAN YOUR IPHONE DO THAT???

What kinda idiot started this comparison!!!
Why compare a fucking nokia to an IPHONE for fuck’s sake? Nokia will NEVER be half as good as Iphone!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha.
P. S. I’m posting this comment from my Iphone and it’s sweeeeeeet!!!!!!!

i have an nokia 5230,the small bro. of nokia 5800,and its almost same as nokia 5800.so nor nokia 5800 nor iphone go for nokia 5230,it is cheap by 4500 rupees than n 5800 but works the same

I tried all the iPhones ever released, and I also tried the 5800 (we actually have 2 of them at home).

This one thing makes the 5800 the worst dumb-phone I ever used: the 5800 is SLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! That’s why I call it a “dumb”phone. iPhone never lags or slows down or glitches (I even tried a 3 year old first generation iPhone).

5800 simply is slow. How did is it an iPhone “killer” ? It failed miserably!

But I believe 5800 has ONE advantage: high-quality speakers. But that’s about it.
Of course, everyone has his opinion, even if it is an entirely amateur and “fanboy” opinion.
Have fun with the SUPER SLOW 5800.

As i can see, nokia 5800 is the winner! I mean, iphone users compare not just the first iphone version, but all of ‘em to the 5800, that was nokias first touchscreen phone. I may agree, that it is a bit expired (a very little bit), but if you want iphone beaten immedeately, try one of the latest nokia models.
I agree, that the 5800 is a bit slow, but i think, that first iphone was approximately WORSE. I think, it is not all about the 5800, it is about NOKIA! Those guys know, how to get a job done! I had (actually still have, but i dont use) a nokia 6131, for five or more years now. I broke it, fixed it, and now its still in nearly perfect working order.

I bought second hand(1 year more) Nokia 5800 last month. It cheaper USD100 than new one. I test all their functions include GPS(Garmin), Wifi, Handwriting recognition, Touchscreen, Play music, connect to PC, SMS, calling, youtube, batery, charge with in car charger and more. Suprise! It all still working as new one even used one year more. It mean nokia 5800 is not just good about their functions but also it good in quality. I like their GPS(Garmin), touch screen and wifi. Nokia 5800 is great.

Guys with nokia touchscreen phones: there is a cool game for your phones – armageddon squadron. In it you can fly few different planes (yeah, it is a flying game!) of the WW II, with 12 campaign missions, 4 race-like time trial runs, four planes to choose from, and wi-fi multiplayer with local network, and global internet modes. You get ranks for (single player) score and (multiplayer) kills amount to unlock planes in arcade or multiplayer. It supports nokia 5800, as far as i’m concerned, but it should support all s60v5 smartphones (or simple phones with the same firmware). One note: don’t buy it on ovi. Find it in google, and download for free! I’d rate it on ovi with 5 stars out of 5, but you cant rate and review something, that isn’t downloaded or bought from ovi. BTW – ovi reviews on this game is full of complains and refund requests… For download failures. It is a paid game on ovi, and costs 4 euros. It’s not worth the complications. I read about the download stopping at 50%, but cash paid.
P.S.
To admin – please consider seperating this conversation in multiple sections. I use my nokia 5800 to access this page, and it takes a lot of time to load it, and to get to the bottom to post comments. You may hide the P.S.

Has anyone got problms with gps on 5800? I mean, mine is working only under clear sky, with no roofs above. Should i bother changing the gps antenna, or just leave it?

To butters:
Iphone screen detects human’s static ecectricity, witch is in hair, fingers, and on skin. I’ve seen the iphones screen “squares” (X and Y arrays, they work like coordonates, to tell, wheres finger) and they are big, so, not precise. 5800′s screen works a lot the same, only it detects pressure, but it is more precise. That makes it possible, to get a drawing app on nokia, coz its stylums have more precision (one point) . You can’t make a good-for-something drawing with a finger, so iphone doesn’t actually support a drawing app. Though, if i’m wrong, and you know a drawing app for iphone, let me know.
BTW, nokias screens are more impact and strong pressure resistant. Iphone screen, i think, is very easy to break.

5) Input Methods
Iphone has better touch-screen
8 ) Battery
Iphone can stay more than 300 hours on stand-by
9) Camera
Iphone has 3.25 MP camera
10) Video Calling
Iphone has videocall
14) Voice Recording
It’s avaible on iphone
15) Web Browser
U can have safari latest version that can support flash lite
19) Price
Nokia is cheaper because Iphone is better!!

I want to change, what i said about 5800 gps, works fine…
Just takes quite some time to find the four, or five, or more required gps satellites b4 it starts working.

@DZHEX
my 5800′s GPs (under ovi maps) working just fine under some obstacles (i.e: house roof, trees canopy @the forest, on a moving car, etc)

Awesome man. but 5800 lacks multitouch thats the only drawback

Nokia 5800 is friendly to use!
no other softwares will be deleted as it is upgrading!

I love the response of it’s touch!

thanks for this i booked marked it

I read and saw a little more details about iphone4… The apple have really done some success with this. It is so unscratchable, as if it was covered with a diamond layer. Other iphones had it for screen only, but this one is all over covered with it. It also seems waterproof. WHAT GIVES???? The new n8 of nokia will surely beat it in software related stuff, but the 5800 is -let’s face it- slowly beginning to go down. Though, the software stuff will be difficult to beat (you can always hack, flash, customise, accelerate and more with 5800)

I read, that a few guys have made CFWs (custom firmwares) to not only customise every single byte of 5800, but to also speed it up! You can find some cfw, which is already tested, or make your own. But only at your own risk, coz if you mess it up, you can kill your cell. I think, that a cfw is possible for any device with firmware, but i have never heard of an iphone cfw.
Look at dotsis.com or at dailymobile for cfws and apps, though, there are no cracked apps allowed at dailymobile.
Please note: in some countries a cfw voids your warranty.

I have been using an iphone and a 5800 for atleast a year now. If I have to give my verdict I would select the 5800 for as many as a 100 reasons. To list the best reasons, I would say 1. third party apps thousands of them available for 5800. 2. expandable memory, I have been using three 8 gb cards with 5800 which i use as data storage. The card slot on the outside is real handy. 3. the best reason of all the rim along the display in 5800 which really protects the screen. Furthermorre, I once accidently dropped the 5800 in a bucket full of water, pulled it out and quyickly seperated the battery. The phone lives. Had it been my I phone, I would have been one unhappy i phone user.

hi

can i download movies from my mobile ?
if you know anything plzzz reply me .i want all movies with bette rquality .

1 more point …..
iphone dosent support java

5800 is sik easy to use can pick it up and know how to use everyting also download opera mobile makes internet browsing f***ing easy its like ur on a computer iphone doesnt look like a phone it looks like fat ipod that calls people leave an iphone sitting around for 3-4 and its dead out of battery nokia even released a 32gb microsd so if you get a 32 and 16 you can have 48 gb of memory [or 8gb and 32gb for40gb] which one could be used for music nd games other for movies

i have been using the nokia tube for 3 weeks now and i absolutely love it.
I`ve used the i phone before and well……..IT WAS VERY LIMITING.
i have GPS,FLV PLAYER,TONS OF SOFTWARE AND I CAN CARRY MY ANIME WHEREVER I GO.
THE 5800 IS 3 YEARS OLD YET IT STILL RULES.

although nokia has to learn from apple and lg about interface desing(if you`ve used an i-phone or the lg gd510,you would understand),the phone has tons of functionality.

Hi,i’ve read all your comments and nice comparison.=) i’m planing to buy nokia phone ,5800 express music or 5800 navigation edition ,which is better between them ..can any body help me here..thanks

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is the best smartphone in the world of all-time. Not mentioning the success of Nokia mobile phone giant.